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  • Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
    United is not the only airline to overbook. They all do it. That being said, United really screwed the pooch on this one.
    Yes, overbooking is common and normally works well..

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    • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

      Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
      Oh I agree, was just stating why they wanted to get four people off. I have a family member high up in delta ops so I fully understand how these things work.
      Execution was the issue here. Total colossal failure. Only worse thing would have been if the officer would have grabbed a woman by the *****
      Sorry. I just get fired up sometimes.
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      Originally posted by SanTropez
      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
      Originally posted by Kepler
      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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      • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

        For reasons that should be obvious to some of you, I will not be publically commenting on this situation...
        Jordan Kawaguchi for Hobey!!
        Originally posted by Quizmire
        mns, this is why i love you.

        Originally posted by Markt
        MNS - forking genius.

        Originally posted by asterisk hat
        MNS - sometimes you gotta answer your true calling. I think yours is being a pimp.

        Originally posted by hockeybando
        I am a fan of MNS.

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        • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

          Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
          For reasons that should be obvious to some of you, I will not be publically commenting on this situation...
          So, you really are not hostile and abusive?
          Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
          Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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          • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

            I believe United stock was down 200M at the opening today.
            Last edited by Deutsche Gopher Fan; 04-11-2017, 08:59 PM.

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            • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

              I almost bought when I heard that. But then again, United doesn't seem to understand how to handle a problem given their CEO's responses to the last two incidents.

              This might be a lesson in that it's cheaper to charter a G5 or G6 to Tu four people than beat a paying customer and drag him or her off a plane. Why didn't they do that in the first place? What's a private one way charter cost today? $5k-$10k? Almost cheaper than paying out $3,200, paying for hotels, flying them on another flight, and ****ing off a customer.
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              Originally posted by SanTropez
              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
              Originally posted by Kepler
              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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              • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                I almost bought when I heard that. But then again, United doesn't seem to understand how to handle a problem given their CEO's responses to the last two incidents.

                This might be a lesson in that it's cheaper to charter a G5 or G6 to Tu four people than beat a paying customer and drag him or her off a plane. Why didn't they do that in the first place? What's a private one way charter cost today? $5k-$10k? Almost cheaper than paying out $3,200, paying for hotels, flying them on another flight, and ****ing off a customer.
                Here is what I didn't understand about the whole incident. United controls the plane. Why just drag the guy off. Just don't take off.

                If I were a betting man, I'd bet that somewhere in the documents, ticket, boarding pass, etc..., is language that gives United the absolute right to demand you give up your seat. They'll owe you compensation for it, but I'm pretty sure they can overbook, then insist that someone leave.

                If I were United, I would have offered people compensation if they wanted to voluntarily give up their seat, as United did (I might have tried a little more than the $800 reportedly offered. Everyone has a price). If you still don't get four takers, then do the random drawing. If those drawn don't leave, just announce the plane is not departing until that passenger departs. Announce you're deboarding the plane.

                That's how I would have done it.
                That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

                  That wouldnt work because now you dont just have 4 ticked off passengers you have an entire plane. And they wont be mad at the 4 who wont get off (since they didnt want to either) they will be mad at United who is acting like those dumb teachers the punish the entire class because one kid acts up. This isnt the military, stuff like that almost always backfires. So now you are going to be giving refunds to an entire plane OR risk the same bad PR (minus of course the video of the guy being dragged off) with now hundreds of stories about how United screwed them over for no reason.
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                  -aparch

                  "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                  -INCH

                  Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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                  • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

                    Why couldn't they charter a private jet for the crew?
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                    Originally posted by SanTropez
                    May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                    Originally posted by Kepler
                    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                    He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                    • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                      Why couldn't they charter a private jet for the crew?
                      They didn't want to pay for it. Much cheaper to throw four people off and throw them a few hundred bucks and a black eye

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                      • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

                        Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                        That wouldnt work because now you dont just have 4 ticked off passengers you have an entire plane. And they wont be mad at the 4 who wont get off (since they didnt want to either) they will be mad at United who is acting like those dumb teachers the punish the entire class because one kid acts up. This isnt the military, stuff like that almost always backfires. So now you are going to be giving refunds to an entire plane OR risk the same bad PR (minus of course the video of the guy being dragged off) with now hundreds of stories about how United screwed them over for no reason.
                        I've been on planes where everyone has been asked to deboard after we were all on. No one was happy about it, but I guarantee you didn't see a youtube video of it either.
                        That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                        • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

                          Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                          I've been on planes where everyone has been asked to deboard after we were all on. No one was happy about it, but I guarantee you didn't see a youtube video of it either.
                          So have I...and they were plenty ticked off.

                          There is no solution to this where United doesnt look like the complete d-bags they are. They shot themselves in the foot then shoved the foot straight in their mouths.
                          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                          -aparch

                          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                          -INCH

                          Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                          -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                          • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

                            Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                            They didn't want to pay for it. Much cheaper to throw four people off and throw them a few hundred bucks and a black eye
                            What do they run? $5k-$10k?

                            That's not much more than the $3,200 plus hotel plus next flights plus ill will.
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                            Originally posted by SanTropez
                            May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                            Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                            I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                            Originally posted by Kepler
                            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                            He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                            • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

                              Read it.
                              Jordan Kawaguchi for Hobey!!
                              Originally posted by Quizmire
                              mns, this is why i love you.

                              Originally posted by Markt
                              MNS - forking genius.

                              Originally posted by asterisk hat
                              MNS - sometimes you gotta answer your true calling. I think yours is being a pimp.

                              Originally posted by hockeybando
                              I am a fan of MNS.

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                              • Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

                                Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
                                Doesn't really fit with the evil corporation narrative that everyone likes though, does it?
                                That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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