Gender Studies I

[jen]

Re: Gender Studies I

Golly, I'm shocked this thread went downhill so quickly. Astonished, even.

[The Rube]

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Golly, I'm shocked this thread went downhill so quickly. Astonished, even.

Judges? Is this mansplaining? Explaining the obvious?

[dxmnkd316]

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I'm actually curious. Is the dishwasher thing mansplaining or what am I not understanding?

[dxmnkd316]

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Golly, I'm shocked this thread went downhill so quickly. Astonished, even.

Has it really gone downhill? Or has there just been a couple of comments? :-/

[The Rube]

Re: Gender Studies I

I'm actually curious. Is the dishwasher thing mansplaining or what am I not understanding?

If you explain the obvious, no matter if you're in the right or not, it's mansplaining, and men are to blame. Period. No excuse. I guess.

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Gender Studies I

You're not helping.

[The Rube]

Re: Gender Studies I

You're not helping.

I'm mansplaining.

[burd]

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I think I get it. It's like fansplaining is gopher fans coming on this board and talking hockey.

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Gender Studies I

More like Hawks fan coming here and singing praises of mountains, trees, and teeth.

[burd]

Re: Gender Studies I

More like Hawks fan coming here and singing praises of mountains, trees, and teeth.

Two of us get it at least.

[St. Clown]

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My roommate doesn't know how to use a dishwasher. She's helpless. I've come home to a dishwasher that was rubbing with literally two plates in it. When it is full, it's really not. Half the things are facing away from center, there is no organization so half of it is empty when you rearrange, and then top-rack only items are on the bottom.

If I try to explain how to use a dishwasher, that's going to be considered mansplaining. Right?

I explained how to load a dishwasher to my nephew once and his father jumped on me for being a condescending jerk. I then demonstrated what he was doing wrong, how to make the most of the space and I was still the jerk rather than simply being helpful. It doesn't matter the gender of the person being helped or your truest of intentions behind giving it, people just don't like receiving help unless they ask for it.

[The Rube]

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I explained how to load a dishwasher to my nephew once and his father jumped on me for being a condescending jerk. I then demonstrated what he was doing wrong, how to make the most of the space and I was still the jerk rather than simply being helpful. It doesn't matter the gender of the person being helped or your truest of intentions behind giving it, people just don't like receiving help unless they ask for it.

This.

This is why "mansplaining" is an insulting term. It's sexist. Roll with it if you want, but Imma gonna call you out.

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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No, women are just as good at that as men.

So what, exactly, is the definition? To me it sounds like it's when a man explains something to a woman that he assumes she doesn't know.

Every human being is guilty of this. When Mike Pence's plane slid off the runway in LGA...an ops guy (who can be condescending, at times) in PIT asked me if I knew who Mike Pence was (I live in Indiana). Would that have been "mansplaining" if I had been a woman? If so, why is it called something different?

[burd]

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So what, exactly, is the definition? To me it sounds like it's when a man explains something to a woman that he assumes she doesn't know.

I'm sure I do this more often that I like to think--explain things to my wife, my secretary, or my friends things which I have good reason to know they already understand. I suspect they often think I'm a harmless fool when I do it, but sometimes it must be aggravating. A holdover behavior from a time when we excluded women from wide areas of knowledge, such as business and politics. And still do to a degree.

I can't think of times when I've done it sitting here, but I plan to ask my wife tonight, and I am willing to bet she will have a better memory. But to make sure I get to score at least one point in this mismatch, I will first explain to her what mansplaining is and how it is commonplace.

[Kepler]

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I'm sure I do this more often that I like to think--explain things to my wife, my secretary, or my friends things which I have good reason to know they already understand. I suspect they often think I'm a harmless fool when I do it, but sometimes it must be aggravating. A holdover behavior from a time when we excluded women from wide areas of knowledge, such as business and politics. And still do to a degree.

I can't think of times when I've done it sitting here, but I plan to ask my wife tonight, and I am willing to bet she will have a better memory. But to make sure I get to score at least one point in this mismatch, I will first explain to her what mansplaining is and how it is commonplace.

I do it far less now that I'm aware of it, but we all do it. The best way to self-examine is to ask your female loved ones. If you have few female loved ones , watch yourself when you interact with a woman and imagine you are interacting with a man. Typically, one's behavior is different. It's not that a man is necessarily more deferential to a man, but he's far less "I am demonstrating my self-assurance here."

Women are trained to be hens and men are trained to be cocks. This is very useful in the right circumstances, but in the workplace the women we meet aren't being hens and they have not requested that we be cocks.