Gender Studies I

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

All around the world, same song.

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

I'm not arguing she's not TE.

And you're cis. I realize you have opinions, and you are entitled to them... but right now, trans people need you to stop talking and listen. Don't claim to be an ally if you're not going to listen. Don't claim to be an ally if all you're going to do is argue or debate every time we bring something like this up. Don't claim to be an ally if you're not going to leave your safe space and spend time with us, close enough to be hit by the rocks aimed straight at us.

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

And you're cis. I realize you have opinions, and you are entitled to them... but right now, trans people need you to stop talking and listen. Don't claim to be an ally if you're not going to listen. Don't claim to be an ally if all you're going to do is argue or debate every time we bring something like this up. Don't claim to be an ally if you're not going to leave your safe space and spend time with us, close enough to be hit by the rocks aimed straight at us.

Trans people have special knowledge as to what constitutes TE. On that we all need to shut up and listen to you.

But trans people don't get to define who are Fs and who are RFs. That isn't their exclusive baby, it's feminists' writ large.

It is not cissplaining to say that trans people do not have special knowledge concerning brick laying or penalty killing. My argument is I doubt most feminists would regard Rowling as a radical feminist, therefore she is a trans-exclusionary feminist, not a trans-exclusionary radical feminist. If I was saying something regarding the trans-exclusionary part of that you'd be perfectly right telling me to shut up. But regarding the rest, trans and feminists have the same bona fides.

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

Not up to you, you cisgender heterosexual. The Advocate, who is run by cis people, called her a TERF.

Dear cis people: if you're arguing with us trans people about if JK Rowling is a TERF, you've already sided with her. Every god **** day I'm starting to think Thanos and Magneto both made valid points at least, and it's because of people like you.

Go get me some coffee, since you're not listening and talking to me like I don't know what I'm talking about, you sweaty tomato.

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

If The Advocate (which is run by LGBTQ, including trans, not just cis) calls her a TERF, then she's a TERF.

As for the rest, your anger is completely misdirected. Being trans does not remove the constraint of being logical. You have special knowledge within certain spheres, but you are not magically omniscient.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

If The Advocate (which is run by LGBTQ, including trans, not just cis) calls her a TERF, then she's a TERF.

As for the rest, your anger is completely misdirected. Being trans does not remove the constraint of being logical. You have special knowledge within certain spheres, but you are not magically omniscient.

Yeah I don’t think anyone here is arguing so I don’t get the anger.

Maybe I’m really obtuse or maybe it’s because I don’t give a crap about HP but I also don’t hear people arguing about this off the board.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Gender Studies I

MT has been through a lot. I think some anger/frustration is to be expected, especially with COVID lockdown messing with her ability to see others in her community and support system. And let's be honest, Dump will do whatever Pence and Miller tell him to do on the LGBTQ+ front, and there's still plenty of time for damage to be done.

[MissThundercat]

MT has been through a lot. I think some anger/frustration is to be expected, especially with COVID lockdown messing with her ability to see others in her community and support system. And let's be honest, Dump will do whatever Pence and Miller tell him to do on the LGBTQ+ front, and there's still plenty of time for damage to be done.

Not only that, a lot of us trans people hurt and upset by her rhetoric, and with nowhere to go with our anger, it's coming out.

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

Is Miller crazy transphobic/homophobic too? I wouldn't be at all surprised but I think of him mostly for the racism train.

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

Today, a wonderful woman from my job stood up from behind the desk, came out, and held me for about a minute. She's been my work place Mama Bear ever since I got to Centria.

On the way home, I stopped to pick up some breast inserts (it makes them look a little bigger) from my best friend's apartment. As I picked up the bag, I sighed and turned to walk back down the stairs. She said "come here," and she also held me for about a minute. Then she asked her partner if she wanted one. Kelly said yes. I drove home feeling happy.

What you don't understand is that our Pride events: Cancelled. Day of Visibility: Cancelled. My trans group has been reduced to Zoom. Out On the Lakeshore is closed to the public right now. My church holds online services via Facebook, but it's not the same as getting Mama hugs on Sunday mornings.

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: Gender Studies I

Is Miller crazy transphobic/homophobic too? I wouldn't be at all surprised but I think of him mostly for the racism train.

I always just assumed...

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

And I have to laugh. I adjusted the filter on OK Cupid from "men and women" to just "women." My total number of likes dropped from 250+ to 16.

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

You just demonstrated that the ((het male) + (lesbian/bi female)) / (lesbian/bi female) ratio on OK Cupid is 250/16 = 15.6 : 1, which means there are 14.6x the number of het males as there are lesbian/bi females. That actually seems... about right.

Figuring the gay population is roughly 10%, that would imply about a 3:2 ratio of men to women on OK Cupid. TBH I'd have thought it was way higher.

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

Dumb Olds question: do lesbians use Grindr or is it strictly for the boy/boy bow-chicka-bow-wow?

[MissThundercat]

Boys and trans girls looking for a quick F.