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  • Re: Gender Studies I

    Originally posted by wolverineTrumpet View Post
    ... I will tell you that y'all is plural, not singular.
    I was the only other person in the room and a southerner addressed me as "y'all". Sure I could lose a couple pounds, but I ain't plural.
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    • Re: Gender Studies I

      Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
      I was the only other person in the room and a southerner addressed me as "y'all". Sure I could lose a couple pounds, but I ain't plural.
      A college friend was from Oklahoma, and she told me that "y'all" was used as a singular there. If you're talking to more than one person, from two to infinity, they use "y'all two." And yes, she acknowledged the absurdity of it.
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        In North Carolina, "y'all" is used to refer to a single person in RTP. Outside RTP, North Carolinians speak completely incomprehensible gibberish.
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          The summer before my Jr. and Sr. years in high school I was a camp counselor at the YMCA came in Estes Park, CO. Each session was 2 weeks each with a 1 week break in between. I think they offered (4?) total weeks but I only did 2 total weeks each summer.

          The first summer 4 of counselors were girls from Lubbock, TX and being quite savvy made sure to spend as much time around them as possible. They were quite infectious in more ways than one and I had to fight form using, "y'all" by the end of the first week. And especially during the break when we all hung out together a lot it wanted to come out. I managed to not utter it once but **** it wasn't easy.

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            Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
            The summer before my Jr. and Sr. years in high school I was a camp counselor at the YMCA came in Estes Park, CO. Each session was 2 weeks each with a 1 week break in between. I think they offered (4?) total weeks but I only did 2 total weeks each summer.

            The first summer 4 of counselors were girls from Lubbock, TX and being quite savvy made sure to spend as much time around them as possible. They were quite infectious in more ways than one and I had to fight form using, "y'all" by the end of the first week. And especially during the break when we all hung out together a lot it wanted to come out. I managed to not utter it once but **** it wasn't easy.
            During my college years, spent a week in TX (it was a national frat convention). By the end of the week, the TX chapter was saying "you guys" and we were saying "y'all." Freaked us all out.
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              So, I somehow only now ran into the word "womxn."

              Genuinely useful term or Woke Olympics? I guess time will tell. I am agnostic.
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                I heard "womyn" once. Never heard "womxn." Even the word "folx" is a new one on me.
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                  Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
                  I heard "womyn" once. Never heard "womxn." Even the word "folx" is a new one on me.
                  I get womxn as clever (x chromosome) but I sure don't get it for trans women -- it seems to me substituting x for y is excluding trans women.

                  But, like I said, aint up to me. Whatever people want me to call them I'm gonna call them.
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                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    I get womxn as clever (x chromosome) but I sure don't get it for trans women -- it seems to me substituting x for y is excluding trans women.

                    But, like I said, aint up to me. Whatever people want me to call them I'm gonna call them.
                    "Woman" is fine with me.
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                    • Re: Gender Studies I

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      So, I somehow only now ran into the word "womxn."

                      Genuinely useful term or Woke Olympics? I guess time will tell. I am agnostic.
                      "Womyn" is mostly Woke Olympics. Used mainly by annoying, TERF-y, man-hating lesbian types. Never seen it with an 'x'.

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                        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                        "Womyn" is mostly Woke Olympics. Used mainly by annoying, TERF-y, man-hating lesbian types. Never seen it with an 'x'.
                        Meh, womyn has been around forever. It started out as Andrea Dworkin braid your leg hair types but now it's established in (turn on echo machine) The Academy, and I'm fine with it. Like queer being appropriated by LGBT as a protest/pride thing.
                        Last edited by Kepler; 01-18-2020, 05:14 PM.
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                          ”The term explicitly includes femme/feminine-identifying genderqueer and non-binary individuals.”

                          You know what other word includes them? Women.

                          How is this stuff ever going to seem normal if we keep making up special (separate but equal) words for it?
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                            Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                            ”The term explicitly includes femme/feminine-identifying genderqueer and non-binary individuals.”

                            You know what other word includes them? Women.

                            How is this stuff ever going to seem normal if we keep making up special (separate but equal) words for it?
                            Brace yourself, my friend...

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                              Originally posted by wolverineTrumpet View Post
                              I can also state that in Baltimore "yous" can be singular or plural.
                              In Pittsburgh, they say "yins." (And who knows if I'm spelling it correctly.)
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                              • Re: Gender Studies I

                                Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                                How is this stuff ever going to seem normal
                                In my opinion, for what it is worth as a straight cis white male (I don't mean that ironically, I am the last person on Earth with skin in this game so I am not at all to be taken seriously here) is that in the early stages of a social revolution "normality" may be the enemy of progress. Certainly the end goal is acceptance -- to remove the baseline of privilege from say straight, or cis. But starting from a dominance hierarchy the idea of "normality" -- of being value-free -- only reinforces the present order. So being deliberately provocative and forcing people to actually re-examine how they are unconsciously thinking is part of how you effectively change people's minds.

                                If there is truth to that then "womyn" was an effective tool 30 years ago and "womxn" is now.

                                I'll say this: "Latinx" forces me to think intersectionally. When I see it (and wince) I move from white/brown to boy/girl and associate their struggles for equality. To roll all that meaning up in a word is very effective. Sartre said words are bullets, and that word is powerful ammunition, brought to bear directly on a target.

                                So, anyway, with the distance of a few days' thought, I begin to like "womxn."

                                I like "womxyn" even more. It is inclusive (x and y) and it is pronounceable). Also the "mixing" connotation is playful.

                                Miss T and other females -- whaddya think?
                                Last edited by Kepler; 01-19-2020, 06:30 AM.
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