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    • Originally posted by busterman62 View Post
      We have one of those in Michigan. And he's the Chair of the Michigan Republican Party.
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      • Looked under the hood? I found the pedo

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        • Nobody here has addressed the very real issue of biological men competing against women in physical competitions.

          It's a problem for the women swimming against Lia; they've said so themselves.
          Last edited by Fishman'81; 03-29-2022, 10:12 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
            Looked under the hood? I found the pedo

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            • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

              The American Taliban.
              I know he's been looking up trans porn on Pornhub.
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              • Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
                Nobody here has addressed the very real issue of biological men competing against women in physical competitions.

                It's a problem for the women swimming against Lia; they've said so themselves.
                Yes they have. Many times. Hormones do amazing things. Perhaps you could learn about it.
                I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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                • Originally posted by Swansong View Post

                  Yes they have. Many times. Hormones do amazing things. Perhaps you could learn about it.
                  People like him say "educate" and then move the goal posts all over the place.

                  But you and I both know that for someone on HRT, "biological advantage" doesn't mean anything when you can't open a pickle jar. (ACHIEVMENT UNLOCKED +2000)
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                  • Originally posted by swansong View Post

                    yes they have. Many times. Hormones do amazing things. Perhaps you could learn about it.
                    PDNQTD.

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                    • Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post

                      People like him say "educate" and then move the goal posts all over the place.

                      But you and I both know that for someone on HRT, "biological advantage" doesn't mean anything when you can't open a pickle jar. (ACHIEVMENT UNLOCKED +2000)
                      Yep, he's a concern troll. Just like the other Fishy was 10 years ago.

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                      • Originally posted by Swansong View Post

                        Yes they have. Many times. Hormones do amazing things. Perhaps you could learn about it.
                        Any examples of a biological female, trans male mopping up the competition at the NCAA level?

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                        • Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post

                          People like him say "educate" and then move the goal posts all over the place.

                          But you and I both know that for someone on HRT, "biological advantage" doesn't mean anything when you can't open a pickle jar. (ACHIEVMENT UNLOCKED +2000)
                          You keep bringing up the pickle jar...

                          Trans or not, we are dealing with "elite" athletes.... Please stop acting like HRT makes these athletes have the capabilities of an MTU undergrad who hasn't left their dorm room for 5 months... As a whole, there is a 10-20% performance difference in winning times/distances between Male and Female...

                          After HRT, Lia's times in the 500 fell just 6%.... And HRT does not alter bone structure, height, etc...
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                          • Didn't lia post a top 6 time across men and women in the 1,000 this year? She's just ****ing elite.
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                            • Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post

                              There is a point there:

                              People are currently wired to use gender biased language based upon traditional feminine/masculine appearances. Because these traditional biases are still hardwired in many, MANY people, they can get said without the intent to offend. It happens. Even if that person is for your right to exist. Language takes time to evolve. It will take time for pronouns to be dropped from common language.
                              Never going to happen. The world as a whole accepts biological gender as a fact of Nature, as it should. Entire Romance languages are gender-specific.

                              Just saying something don't make it so. The world isn't going to do a 180 because a tiny minority demands it.
                              Last edited by Fishman'81; 03-30-2022, 09:05 PM.

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                              • There was outrage when Fallon Fox entered MMA. Same cries of unfair advantage. She fizzled out and there was silence.

                                There was outrage when Laurel Hubbard qualified for Tokyo. Same cries of unfair advantage and silence when she didn't make the medal round.

                                Lia Thomas won one event and there was outrage about unfair advantage. But when she finished 5th and 8th in the other two championships and her career is over, there is silence.

                                I see the hypocrisy. It's like people either don't want us to compete or if they do, how dare we actually be good.
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