Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

Got this from someone who works at the University of Minnesota.

Asian American girl was attacked last night at the University of Minnesota. Told to go home and get out of America. Physically attacked her. She defended herself. She was issued a Citation. Attacker was given nothing.

She was cited because he had witnesses (fellow Drumpfers) who backed his story. It was in the articles I posted in the last thread. She put the whole story on FB.

This disease is everywhere...we are all at fault because we ignored it thinking it only happened elsewhere. Now Drumpf has brought it out into the light of day

[ScoobyDoo]

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If Medicare is privatized, how does that make it any different than our health industry as it already exists?

Medicare patients don't receive Value based pricing. That's how.

[Handyman]

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That will bankrupt me as soon as I hit retirement 17 years away now. I guess I should have expected that. After all, I wasn't responsible enough with my own money.

The GOP is going to turn me into a Democrat (especially if Warren gets her way) good lord how dumb are they?

[FreshFish]

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If Medicare is privatized, how does that make it any different than our health industry as it already exists? Privatizing it basically just does away with it.

Not necessarily, it depends upon how it is done. One concept is to take the same amount of money we are spending now and distribute it to the same people who are beneficiaries of that spending now, so that they can then use that money to pay insurance premiums. The current SSA administrative program known as Medicare is one coverage option: this time, if you like your Medicare, you actually can keep your Medicare; Medicare continues pretty much as it exists now, but instead of being a monopoly provider, it is a competitor in a market with multiple providers.

[The Sicatoka]

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Says the guy who thinks the left needs to stop looking down their noses at people.

You can teach without being condescending.

You can teach by leading by example.

[ScoobyDoo]

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You can teach with being condescending.

Having taught software classes now for a long time I can tell you that yes, you can do that but there are certain people you cannot. And some you can't teach at all.

[FreshFish]

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Some people deserve to be looked down upon.

what about intolerant leftists who denigrate everyone who disagrees with them?

[ScoobyDoo]

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Not necessarily, it depends upon how it is done. One concept is to take the same amount of money we are spending now and distribute it to the same people who are beneficiaries of that spending now, so that they can then use that money to pay insurance premiums. The current SSA administrative program known as Medicare is one coverage option: this time, if you like your Medicare, you actually can keep your Medicare; Medicare continues pretty much as it exists now, but instead of being a monopoly provider, it is a competitor in a market with multiple providers.

Medicare has lower overhead. The overhead costs of privatizing will bankrupt Americans. That's the GOP goal, their budget will look good but Americans will be bankrupt. Including me.

[rufus]

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She was cited because he had witnesses (fellow Drumpfers) who backed his story. It was in the articles I posted in the last thread. She put the whole story on FB.

This disease is everywhere...we are all at fault because we ignored it thinking it only happened elsewhere. Now Drumpf ha brought it out into the light of day

The jackboots are out in the streets. This is the America they wanted. this is the America they voted for.

And for those on here who say they didn't support Trump or his rhetoric, I leave two quotes.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.

- Martin Niemoller

People always look back at the rise of the Third Reich and say, "it could never happen here", "we're too smart to allow that to happen", "we'd never fall for that kind of thing".

Well just open your eyes and take a look around you. This isn't the kind of America I want to be living in. Do you?

But this is what you voted for.

[mookie1995]

what about intolerant leftists who denigrate everyone who disagrees with them?

You are free to look down at them too, yes

[Handyman]

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Having taught software classes now for a long time I can tell you that yes, you can do that but there are certain people you cannot. And some you can't teach at all.

As someone who teaches Business Classes now...I agree 100% with this.

[rufus]

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what about intolerant leftists who denigrate everyone who disagrees with them?

So you say I shouldn't disagree with racists and white supremacists? That I should "tolerate" them? Eff that.

[bigblue_dl]

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That's true. Brent was fair and balanced (really).

So is anybody surprised at the number of over the top Trump supporters that are poor winners on FB? Somebody was just talking about how bummed they were...and unprovoked someone posted 'grieve baby grieve'. Now one might say yeah...but look at how Dems were in 2008. What I remember was that Dems were pretty excited about Obama and his positive message...and not slamming pro Romney supporters. In fact, didn't Romney supporters disparage Obama supporters saying that we were worshipping him like a god?

Am I remembering this right? Is there systematic negativity going on from conservatives?

The behavior of some of the Trump supporters going on the last few days is terrible. I have looked through my Facebook feed several times the last few days, to see if I have any friends or contacts behaving that way, and luckily, it seems like the people I know to be Trump voters are being respectful. I was ready to tear a new ******* for someone after reading/seeing some of the stuff strangers were posting.

[The Sicatoka]

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Having taught software classes now for a long time I can tell you that yes, you can do that but there are certain people you cannot. And some you can't teach at all.

Note that I fixed my first statement to say "without being condescending". (Bad keyboard. )

And yes, there are some folks that you just can't reach. But in the end, you attract more with honey than vinegar.

[Drew S.]

Medicare has lower overhead. The overhead costs of privatizing will bankrupt Americans. That's the GOP goal, their budget will look good but Americans will be bankrupt. Including me.

I don't see any way around us going to a single payer system eventually, just a matter of how long it takes to get there.