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  • #571
    Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Saul Alinsky is one of the rightwing press' favorite boogeymen. I suggest instead that the left read up on Gene Sharp.

    If and when we face government actions that we need to oppose (mass deportations, erosion of civil rights and liberties, environmental devastation, the new Jim Crow), we have two great allies: the basic human decency of most people and our American democratic institutions. Appeal to the former and scrupulously cherish the latter.

    Even the worst tyranny in the US has a time limit. We don't need to, indeed we should not ever aspire to, overthrow the tyrant. Our watchword should always be "slooooooooooow it down." Grit in the gears and red tape are our friends. Our job is to limit the damage that is done until people come back to their senses (or, more likely, until the fickle public turns the arrow of blame back to the other side).

    Comply readily when the policy is anodyne. When it is acidic, call in sick that day, order an impact study, file a lawsuit, get to it tomorrow.
    Last week I made a point to my wife, who is mortified/horrified/fearful that Donald Trump has been elected.

    My point is this.

    We've done some horrible s h ! t in this country in our 240 years of existence, and even in the years before we actually formed the government under which we now operate.

    We burned people at the stake because we thought they were witches. We shipped in a bunch of people from another continent, made them do our work and kept them chained up so they wouldn't run away. We nearly eradicated a race of people who lived on the land before we got here, and those we didn't kill off we just rounded up and kept them on reservations. We used to round up all the mentally handicapped people, put them in institutions and perform experiments on them with chemicals, etc... We had people who would hang other people of a different skin color and take pictures of the group like it was some sort of picnic. And this is just a tiny fraction of the horrible things we've done here.

    Is it something of which to be proud? Of course not. Did the country survive, and actually improve itself in some small measure because of these things? I think so.

    Does anyone really think we're going to do things in the next four years that will be as bad as or worse than these things we've already done? I don't.

    The Republic will survive, and no matter how bad anyone thinks Trump will be, I think it will lead to a measure of improvement of us as a whole.
    That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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    • #572
      Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

      Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
      The Republic will survive, and no matter how bad anyone thinks Trump will be, I think it will lead to a measure of improvement of us as a whole.
      wait until tD declared martial law and then names himself el hefe for life
      a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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      • #573
        Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

        Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
        Correct. All it took was one of those factors (including Comey) going her way and she wins.

        I found interesting the latest claims that Hillary and Obama are the one's to stop Dems from protesting. Wasn't Trump the guy that was elected? So do your part Donald and give some policy concessions...then maybe Hillary have reason to help.
        Trump is President-elect. He has no civil authority. (And questionable moral authority.)

        As far as "policy concessions" - balderdash. I don't recall Mr. Obama doing that in 2008 when the frighty-righties had their knickers in a twist, nor do I recall Bush 43 doing it when "the end had come" in 2000.
        Last edited by The Sicatoka; 11-14-2016, 01:02 PM.
        The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

        North Dakota Hockey:

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        • #574
          Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          Life in the new America.
          Wow and what's Chili's response? They take away this veterans food and kick him out the restaurant on veterans day...and their response is 'our goal is to make every guest feel special...unfortunately we fell short'. I'll say your falling short.
          Go Gophers!

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          • #575
            Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

            Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

            The Republic will survive, and no matter how bad anyone thinks Trump will be, I think it will lead to a measure of improvement of us as a whole.
            That is great...how about you ask a minority what they think. It is easy for us to say "we will survive this" we arent the ones that are going to suffer.

            (you wont like the answer if you do BTW trust me)

            We have the privilege of not having to worry because we arent the undesirables. Although Bannon hates Jews so maybe just you...
            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
            -aparch

            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
            -INCH

            Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
            -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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            • #576
              Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

              He's back.
              Cornell University
              National Champion 1967, 1970
              ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
              Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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              • #577
                Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                That is great...how about you ask a minority what they think. It is easy for us to say "we will survive this" we arent the ones that are going to suffer.

                (you wont like the answer if you do BTW trust me)

                We have the privilege of not having to worry because we arent the undesirables. Although Bannon hates Jews so maybe just you...
                Yep. First thing after Trump was elected I said thank God I'm a white male.
                **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                • #578
                  Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

                  Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                  Trump is President-elect. He has no civil authority. (And questionable moral authority.)

                  As far as "policy concessions" - balderdash. I don't recall Mr. Obama doing that in 2008 when the frighty-righties had their knickers in a twist, nor do I recall Bush 43 doing it when "the end had come" in 2000.
                  Well, then don't come whining that Hillary won't shut down protests for you. Man up.
                  Go Gophers!

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                  • #579
                    Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                    Yep. First thing after Trump was elected I said thank God I'm a white male.
                    https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article...uleId=10007392
                    Cornell University
                    National Champion 1967, 1970
                    ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                    Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                    • #580
                      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                      It was a fair primary. She beat Bernie. It sucks but it is true. Yes some were trying to force it, but they didnt need to he didnt have the votes.
                      My point was that the DNC didn't support giving the primary voters a real choice by fielding a diverse group of options. It was Clinton or just barely a Democrat Sanders. Don't suppress people entering the primary and actually let the voters make a choice.

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                      • #581
                        Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

                        Nice. So the ****TY things we'll do in the next four years aren't gonna be as bad as the ****Ty things we've done in the past, so hey, go us!
                        What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                        • #582
                          Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

                          Originally posted by rufus View Post
                          Nice. So the ****TY things we'll do in the next four years aren't gonna be as bad as the ****Ty things we've done in the past, so hey, go us!
                          Yay. We're enlightened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                          **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                          • #583
                            Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

                            I missed this.
                            Cornell University
                            National Champion 1967, 1970
                            ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                            Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                            • #584
                              Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              I missed this.
                              Yeah, that was fantastic.

                              Joe on Morning Joe said it was more elitist anti-Mid-America liberal drivel. Our country is so ****ed up.
                              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                              • #585
                                Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

                                Originally posted by Almington View Post
                                My point was that the DNC didn't support giving the primary voters a real choice by fielding a diverse group of options. It was Clinton or just barely a Democrat Sanders. Don't suppress people entering the primary and actually let the voters make a choice.
                                Anyone could have run, they chose not to. There wasnt some large DNC Conspiracy to suppress other candidates.

                                No one told Joe Biden to stay away.
                                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                                -aparch

                                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                                -INCH

                                Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                                -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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