Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

[GrinCDXX]

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My favorite technique still is dropping SQL queries directly into form textboxes and seeing what errors come back (and what that tells you).

https://xkcd.com/327/

[Scarlet]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

Believe Ross is still with us. Gave a kick a ss commencement speech at my graduation back in the day!

That was a fun commencement address.

Topic? The "Mirrors" ad is really good, especially in light of this Miss Universe kerfuffle. With regards to the Miss Universe kerfuffle - it seems like HRC takes 10 steps ahead with something like this, then 11 steps back when more comes out about her past. She doesn't seem like the type to not have people to thoroughly vet someone like that.

[Kepler]

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Technically, if you are virtualized, yes, the server in that case would be the operating system and software instance.

The OS itself is the server? I did not know that. I thought the server was a software package running on a machine which may also have customized firmware or even hardware to optimize it for running the server software, just as a console is a physical machine that has been optimized for running game software.

[The Sicatoka]

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The article doesn't go into enough detail to know whether the server was actually compromised in any meaningful way.

And there's the problem: The vast majority of people talking about the situation (Clinton, Trump, Comey, the vast-vast majority of political reporters, the public) can't spell SMTP much less explain it.

[GrinCDXX]

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The OS itself is the server? I did not know that. I thought the server was a software package running on a machine which may also have customized firmware or even hardware to optimize it for running the server software, just as a console is a physical machine that has been optimized for running game software.

The term isn't particularly precise--it can be used to refer to anything from the physical machine, to a particular instance of a software service running on the machine.

[The Sicatoka]

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The OS itself is the server?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/clou...windows-server

That's the OS (the server) that makes the hardware (the physical server) operate. Want to be more confused? Put this database on the server. Yup, that'd be a server running Server with SQL Server. Any wonder IT guys seem confused?

Better yet? I used to have a server that I virtualized* so that one instance was running Server and another instance was running Server with SQL Server.


*I used RedHat Linux Server as my virtualization host.

[Kepler]

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And there's the problem: The vast majority of people talking about the situation (Clinton, Trump, Comey, the vast-vast majority of political reporters, the public) can't spell SMTP much less explain it.

I'm finding the same to be true for people discussing classification or operational security. Those are probably the only subjects where when news covers them I've actually had enough experience and knowledge to know everybody from the reporters to the pundits is totally winging it.

I strongly suspect every story is like this, and every time a news story runs there are a hundred SMEs spitting out coffee and yelling"LOLWUT?!" at their TV.

[GrinCDXX]

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And there's the problem: The vast majority of people talking about the situation (Clinton, Trump, Comey, the vast-vast majority of political reporters, the public) can't spell SMTP much less explain it.

Yeah, I'm pretty shocked to learn just how technically illiterate Clinton is. Our leaders should be MUCH younger.

[Kepler]

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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/clou...windows-server

That's the OS (the server) that makes the hardware (the physical server) operate. Want to be more confused? Put this database on the server. Yup, that'd be a server running Server with SQL Server. Any wonder IT guys seem confused?

Weirdly enough, that all makes perfect sense to me. I have been in this job too long.

[Kepler]

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Excelsior. 538 Nowcast now has OH at 49.9% Clinton. One more poll outta do it.

It's nonsense to follow these poll hours to hour of course -- all of these changes are within the MOE. But it's fun when the arrows are going in your direction. (And torture when they go the other way.)

[Jimjamesak]

I dare read Salon, HuffPo, NYT, WaPo, but also < gasp! > WaTimes, WSJ, Drudge, and British media, so I'm a pariah.

The troll comment was not a left/right thing but I do need to clarify something: I don't give you grief for linking The Sun because of its political slant. I give you grief because The Sun perpetrated one of the worst lies in journalistic history. People from Liverpool, especially those who were at Hillsborough that day, deal with those lies to this day. It's *ing terrible and all because of a blatant lie fed to fuel a cover up. * The Sun.

[Kepler]

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The troll comment was not a left/right thing but I do need to clarify something: I don't give you grief for linking The Sun because of its political slant. I give you grief because The Sun perpetrated one of the worst lies in journalistic history. People from Liverpool, especially those who were at Hillsborough that day, deal with those lies to this day. It's *ing terrible and all because of a blatant lie fed to fuel a cover up. * The Sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjMZAKvMTQI

[The Sicatoka]

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I strongly suspect every story is like this, and every time a news story runs there are a hundred SMEs spitting out coffee and yelling"LOLWUT?!" at their TV.

I learned how little the media knows from a situation involving media coverage of a dispute between two municipalities. I had to explain to a reporter how to look up the state law that defined the process to resolve the dispute. They didn't know how or where to find state law! A former poster here, PCM, clued me in that that was how it would be. I didn't believe him ... until it happened.

[Rover]

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Do you understand how an email server works?.

No and from the looks of it neither do you! I noticed you pulled a quick change when the techies started pushing back on you.

Where was Sid's email account hosted? I assumed it was on the "clintonmail" domain. I could be wrong.

Why would he be on her domain??? He's not on her staff.

[The Sicatoka]

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I'm finding the same to be true for people discussing classification or operational security. Those are probably the only subjects where when news covers them I've actually had enough experience and knowledge to know everybody from the reporters to the pundits is totally winging it.

Clearly above NOFORN. So, C-RD? C-NSI? The really good stuff?

No. Don't answer.