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  • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

    Hand every Trump supporter definitive evidence that this is a fake story from a fake newspaper and the response will still be that they believe it. Plant any seed of negativity about Clinton in the mind of a Trump supporter and they will believe it. Frankly I am surprised Trump has not flat out accused Hillary of all sorts of things. He stands to lose nothing and it will only serve to solidify his support. Rover is correct when he says the only way he can win is to ensure huge turnout among those who profess support for him at the same time democratic turnout falls below historical norms, so Trump would seem to have little to lose by saying Clinton was actually the shooter at the South Carolina church last year as a way to gin up support for gun control.

    Yes, I honestly believe Trump supporters are that intellectually vacant.

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    • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

      From the article:

      Yes, turns out the Baltimore Gazette is just one more in an increasingly baffling array of “parody” news sites that swap the humor of The Onion with the crackpottery of your great-uncle’s emails, all while dressing up their wares with as close an approximation to real news as they can muster.
      I'm glad somebody else has noticed how these things are blurring together. There used to be niche sites with particularized business models: parody sites making with the funny, FlagDude's entire catalog making "buy gold stock" money off the rubes, and flashy, clickbait sites mostly concentrating on scare stories or celeb gossip.

      Now there are tons of sites that just combine all of that and overlap even at the story level. There are stories I have seen where it is impossible to put them into either the parody, Echo Chamber, or clickbait category -- they are "both all and none."

      Until recently it was fairly easy to spot them because they were obviously farming content from other places and what original material there was was lame and full of typos and other mistakes. But they are evolving and getting better and stronger. Soon it's going to be hard to distinguish them.

      FNC and Hate Radio mixed RWNJ and news, and CNN mixed gossip and news, and TDS mixed comedy and news, but those all had fairly rigid scope even if their more naive viewers didn't know that. But these sites have no targeting or niche at all. I wonder if anybody actually visits them regularly, or if they survive as sort of bottom feeder fish, grabbing up stories and getting fat when they go viral, then floating in the murky, sh-t stained eddies of the internet until the next story.

      Modernity is weird.
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      • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

        This political ad is moving. Some day I hope to understand how anyone can claim to be a patriot and still support Trump. I guess it's like advanced math. My mind just isn't made to understand I guess.

        ETA Keep in mind too, POWs in Germany were treated relatively well when compared to what POWs in the Asian theater experienced, or what POWs in Viet Nam experienced. The pain in this man's eyes is haunting, 70 years later. Eff Trump. Hell ain't bad enough for him.
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          Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
          It's incredible that elected officials who are supposed to be smarter than the average citizen are Internet illiterate. Not to mention horrible at basic fact checking.
          Congress is your crazy great-uncle. They're old and completely disassociated from the real world. The median age in the Senate is 65. 25 are over 70. 14 are over 75. 13 are older than Bernie Sanders.

          The Senate is a snapshot of the America Trump wants to go back to: white, male, Christian and out of touch. The country has moved on, our ruling class has not.
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          • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

            Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
            This political ad is moving. Some day I hope to understand how anyone can claim to be a patriot and still support Trump. I guess it's like advanced math. My mind just isn't made to understand I guess.
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            • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

              Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
              This political ad is moving.
              Wow. It sure is.
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              • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                From the article:



                I'm glad somebody else has noticed how these things are blurring together. There used to be niche sites with particularized business models: parody sites making with the funny, FlagDude's entire catalog making "buy gold stock" money off the rubes, and flashy, clickbait sites mostly concentrating on scare stories or celeb gossip.

                Now there are tons of sites that just combine all of that and overlap even at the story level. There are stories I have seen where it is impossible to put them into either the parody, Echo Chamber, or clickbait category -- they are "both all and none."

                Until recently it was fairly easy to spot them because they were obviously farming content from other places and what original material there was was lame and full of typos and other mistakes. But they are evolving and getting better and stronger. Soon it's going to be hard to distinguish them.

                FNC and Hate Radio mixed RWNJ and news, and CNN mixed gossip and news, and TDS mixed comedy and news, but those all had fairly rigid scope even if their more naive viewers didn't know that. But these sites have no targeting or niche at all. I wonder if anybody actually read them regularly, or if they survive as sort of bottom feeder fish, grabbing up stories and getting fat when they go viral, then just moving to the next story.

                Modernity is weird.
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                • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

                  Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
                  This political ad is moving. Some day I hope to understand how anyone can claim to be a patriot and still support Trump. I guess it's like advanced math. My mind just isn't made to understand I guess.

                  ETA Keep in mind too, POWs in Germany were treated relatively well when compared to what POWs in the Asian theater experienced, or what POWs in Viet Nam experienced. The pain in this man's eyes is haunting, 70 years later. Eff Trump. Hell ain't bad enough for him.
                  The first comment that appears for me on that video calls him "Mango Mussolini." Hah!
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                  • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

                    Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                    The first comment that appears for me on that video calls him "Mango Mussolini." Hah!
                    My wife prefers Cinnamon Hitler.

                    Here is an incomplete list: (bold for the better ones)

                    Agent Orange — Anonymous
                    America's Burst Appendix — Samantha Bee
                    Art Deal and Mr. "Art of the Deal" — Donald Trump (taken from the title of his 1987 book, which he considers to be second only to the Bible)
                    *****hole
                    Baby Fingers Trump
                    Baldfaced Crier
                    John Baron — Donald Trump (a pseudonym he used to brag about his exploits in the third person)
                    Barrel-Shouting Meatball Donald Trump — Chris Hardwick
                    The Big Cheeto
                    Big Donald — (Marco Rubio, revised to Pig Donald by feminists)
                    Birther Maniac
                    Blowhard
                    Bratman — Michael R. Burch
                    Bribe of Chucky
                    The Bouffant Buffoon — Michael R. Burch
                    Bumbledore
                    The Bush Basher
                    The Bush Master
                    Cancer in a Wig — Trevor Noah
                    Captain Bluster
                    Captain Chaos — NBC News
                    Captain Crunch
                    Captain Outrageous — Michael R. Burch, a pun on Captain Courageous
                    The Chaos Candidate — Jeb Bush
                    Cheez Whiz — John Oliver
                    Cheeto-Dusted Bloviator — jezebel.com
                    Chicken Donald — Martin O'Malley
                    Chickenhawk — Because he's a coward who portrays himself as a war hawk
                    Clown Prince of Politics
                    Comedy Entrapment — Jon Stewart
                    Commander-in-Grief
                    Conspiracy Commander-in-Chief
                    Con-Dike Goldrush
                    Corn Husk Doll Cursed by a Witch Donald Trump — Chris Hardwick
                    The Cowardly Lyin'
                    Crybaby Prima Donald
                    Daddy Warbucks
                    The Dainty Donald
                    Damien Trump
                    **** Turd Pol — anagram
                    Darth Hater
                    Darth taxeVader — Michael R. Burch
                    DDT
                    The Debate Hater
                    Der Trumpkopf
                    Dingbat Donald
                    Dire Abby (a pun on "Dear Abby" because Trump frequently tweets relationship advice to other people)
                    The Disruptor
                    The Dick Tater
                    DJT
                    The Don
                    Don Dementia
                    The Donald — Ivana Trump (she first used the term in a 1989 Spy Magazine cover story)
                    Donald deGonad
                    Donald the Deadbeat — Dan Rather
                    Donald Dingbat
                    Donald Dip****
                    Donald Dodo — as in the famously stupid dodo bird
                    The Donaldmeister
                    Donald Doom
                    The Donimator
                    Donald Duck
                    Donald Duck Doo-Doo
                    Donald Ducknuke
                    Donald Dump
                    Donald Gonad
                    Donald the Menace
                    Donny — SNL's Church Lady (Dana Carvey)
                    Donnybaby
                    Donnyboy
                    Donnybrook
                    Dumbelldore
                    Dumbo — Grace Taylor
                    The Dumpster (pun on Trumpster and the "Dump Trump" slogan)
                    Dump Tump — Grace Taylor
                    Ego Maniac
                    The Emperor with no Balls (on naked statues of Trump)
                    The Emperor with no Clothes
                    Itty Bitty Ball Trump
                    Fascist Carnival Barker — Martin O'Malley
                    Feral Shouting Meatball Donald Trump — Chris Hardwick
                    Field Marshall Trump
                    Fifth Avenue Freeze-Out (for trying to deny disabled vets the right to street vend on Fifth Avenue)
                    The Fomentor — Trevor Noah
                    The Fomentalist
                    Forrest Trump
                    Fragile Soul — Ted Cruz
                    The Frontrunner
                    ****face von Clownstick — Jon Stewart
                    The Germinator (Trump hates to shake hands, fearing germs)
                    Genghis Cant — Because he can't rule the world, making his promises mere cant
                    Gentle Donald — Ted Cruz
                    The Greatest Charlatan (of them all) — Brent Bozell
                    God — Jay Leno
                    Golden Wrecking Ball — Sarah Palin
                    The GOP's Unhinged Front-Runner — Robert Schlesinger, managing editor for opinion at U.S. News & World Report
                    Government Expander — Glen Beck
                    Gossamer-Skinned Bully — Graydon Carter
                    Grandpa ****o — Kyle Bunch
                    The Grand Wizard of Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory — Murfster35 on DailyKos
                    Great Orange Hairball of Fear — Michael R. Burch
                    Hair Furor (pun on Herr Fuhrer)
                    Hair Hitler (pun on Herr Hitler)
                    Head Twit
                    Herr Führer Trump — Michael R. Burch
                    Herr Trump
                    The Human Amplifier
                    The Human Combover
                    The Human Corncob — Erin L. Cody
                    The Human Bullhorn — Jim Newell, in Slate
                    Humble — Donald Trump's ironic choice when asked to provide a Secret Service codename
                    Humble Cow Pie — because he's full of **** about being "humble"
                    Hurricane Donald ― Jeff Singer
                    The im-POTUS
                    Immigrant-Bashing Carnival Barker — TIME Magazine, quoting presidential candidate Martin O'Malley
                    In-Vet-Irate Liar (for claiming to "support" vets while trying to sweep them off the streets)
                    John Baron — Donald Trump (a pseudonym)
                    John Boehner's Tanning Partner in Crime — Michael R. Burch
                    Job Security (for Comedians) ― Jimmy Kimmel
                    Kelly's Zero (pun on [Megyn] Kelly's Heroes)
                    Killer Klown from Outer Space (the title of a "b" movie)
                    King of the Oompa Loompas ― Justin Baragona
                    King of Sleaze
                    King of Spin
                    King of the Whoppers — USA Today, Christmas Day, 2015
                    King Trump
                    King Tut — Because his insults make billions of people go "Tut, tut, tut!"
                    King Twit
                    Liberal Lip
                    Liberal Wannabe Strongman — David McIntosh
                    Little Donnie Sissypants
                    Lord Dampnut — anagram
                    Lord Voldemort — Rosie O'Donnell
                    Man-Baby — Jon Stewart
                    Master Debater
                    Mein Furor — Murfster35 on DailyKos
                    The Michelangelo of Ballyhoo — TIME by David Von Drehle in his cover article on Trump
                    Mogul (his Secret Service code name)
                    Mr. "Art of the Deal" — Donald Trump (taken from the title of his 1987 book)
                    Mr. Chickenhawk — Because he's a coward who portrays himself as a war hawk
                    Mr. Firepants
                    Mr. Inappropriate
                    Mr. Boinker Oinker
                    Mr. Macho — Bernie Sanders (who perhaps gave the lily-livered draft dodger too much credit)
                    Mr. Wiggy Piggy (because he's such a male chauvinist pig)
                    Mussolini's Taint — Kyle Bunch
                    Narcissistic Human Airhorn, Donald Trump — Chris Hardwick
                    The New Furor (pun on Führer)
                    New York Dork
                    New York Pork Dork
                    No More Donald — Elizabeth Warren, in a tweet
                    The Only Plausible GOP Nominee — Bustle
                    Orange Clown
                    Orange Julius — A pun on the fruit drink chain (emphasis on fruit) and Julius Caesar
                    Orange Man
                    OranguTAN
                    Panda Hair — Elizabeth Harris Burch
                    Pander Hair — Elizabeth Harris Burch
                    Peripatetic Political Showman — The Fiscal Times
                    Pig Donald — a variation of Big Donald, coined by Marco Rubio
                    Poor Donald — Hillary Clinton
                    Poster Child of American Decline — Robert Spencer
                    Puffed Up Daddy
                    Prima Donald
                    Putin's Pet
                    Queens' Reich (Trump hails from Queens NY, and sounds like the second coming of the Third Reich)
                    Queer Orangutan
                    Rabble-Rousing Demagogue — John Cassidy in The New Yorker
                    Ronald McDonald Trump-Bozo — Michael R. Burch
                    Sack of Gilded Lunchmeat — Kyle Bunch
                    Screaming Carrot Demon — Samantha Bee
                    Scrooge Grinch McGrump — Michael R. Burch (first used Christmas Eve, 2015)
                    ****ler
                    Snake Oil Salesman — Rosie O'Donnell
                    Sociopathic 70-Year-Old Toddler — Samantha Bee
                    Stubby Fingers Trump
                    Stuporman — since Trump's superpower is putting people to sleep and making them dream that he has magical superpowers
                    Tan Dump Lord — anagram
                    Tangello Fruit Roll-Up Stretched Over Cat Litter Donald Trump — Chris Hardwick
                    Tangerine-Tinted Trash-Can Fire — Samantha Bee
                    Tangerine Tornado — SNL's Church Lady (Dana Carvey)
                    Tepid Trumpeter
                    TelePrompTer Trump — Mark Sumner
                    The Spin King
                    The Spinster and The Sinister Spinster — Michael R. Burch
                    The Teflon Don — Michael R. Burch
                    Tie-Coon (because his menswear line includes ties)
                    Timid Trumpster
                    The Tiny Fisted Emperor — Murfster35 on DailyKos
                    Tiny Hands Trump
                    Tricky Trump
                    Tricky Don Trump (after Tricky Dick Nixon)
                    T-Rump
                    Trumptastrophe — Chris McKay
                    Trump Card
                    Trumpdozer — TIME Magazine
                    Trump of Doom — Michael R. Burch (first used in a Facebook post on September 11, 2015)
                    Trumpling Dildo
                    Trumpelthinskin — Murfster35 on DailyKos
                    Trumpenstein — Murfster35 on DailyKos
                    Trumpmeister
                    Trumpthechumps
                    Trumpletoes
                    Trumpster
                    Trumpinator — Soopermexican
                    Trumpamaniac
                    Trumpledore
                    Trumpenstein
                    Trumplestiltskin
                    Trumpalump
                    Trump the Grump
                    The Tufted Taliban
                    Twitter Flitter
                    Twitter Spitter
                    The Twitter Terror — Michael R. Burch
                    Two-Bit Caesar — Bill Kristol
                    UNA (Unrepentant Narcissistic *******) — Jon Stewart
                    The UNA Bomber
                    Unreality King
                    Vanilla Isis
                    Venom-Drenched Regurgitated Slimy Orange Hairball — Michael R. Burch
                    Vet Evictor (for staging a benefit for veterans after trying to sweep disabled vets from New York City streets for more than a decade)
                    Voldemort ― Rosie O'Donnell
                    Walking Punchline
                    Walking Talking Human Combover — Michael R. Burch
                    Weak Donald — Trevor Noah
                    The Wedgie from West Palm — Kyle Bunch
                    The White Kanye ― Bill Maher
                    The Winning Whiner
                    World's Greatest Troll — FiveThirtyEight Politics
                    Xenophobic Sweet Potato Donald Trump — Chris Hardwick
                    YUGE *******
                    YUGE Liar
                    Zen Master of Hate

                    and of course:

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                    • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      The median age in the Senate is 65. .
                      No, it's 63 years and 4 days. (It's noted near the top in your link.)

                      I can't believe ND's delegation is "young" in the Senate.
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                      • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

                        Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
                        Trump is appealing to a far more ugly vibe. The things you mention are not ugly at all, but legitimate campaign topics. The only reason Trump has an electoral pulse is because people who think like the stars of Duck Dynasty are simply a lot more prevalent than makes open minded people comfortable. There is 1000 times more hate and bigotry in every corner of this country than even I would have believed a year ago.
                        Interestingly I'm not as surprised as some are at the racism in the GOP. Or more specifically, I'm not surprised how non-racists in the GOP will tolerate racism in order to achieve their goals. In this regard I think me and people like maybe Kep disagree. John McCain, Bob Dole, etc - people who I never would ascribe racism to have no problem backing Trump. Well, maybe they're not as bad as the people waving the Confederate flag at Trump rallies but really at some point its a distinction without a difference. The Southern Strategy of Nixon. Lee Atwater. Willie Horton ads. Welfare Queens. Somebody is voting GOP based on these issues, and have been for the past 50 years.

                        I have been surprised at how some people I know, particularly older family members, are buying into this crap though. That's a shame and its something my grandparents (the WWII generation) would be a lot less likely to go for IMHO.
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                        • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

                          Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                          No, it's 63 years and 4 days. (It's noted near the top in your link.)

                          I can't believe ND's delegation is "young" in the Senate.
                          You're right.

                          Hawaii's was amazing when Inouye and Akaka were still there. When Akaka stepped down they were both 88. Inouye served in the Hawaiian territorial Senate and was elected with Hawaii's first Congressional delegation after statehood, and was still serving in 2012.
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                          • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            I have a pension. I was hired 26 days before my company stopped offering them.

                            Any day now they're going to freeze them even for legacies, though.
                            My company, and most large ones I'm guessing, still offer pensions. They're just defined contribution pensions instead of defined benefit.

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                            • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

                              Here comes the bump.

                              Hillary > 60 in NowCast. Trump crashing in FL, NV, NC and sliding a bit in OH. Those are the closest 4 states and are all counted in Trump's 254 EV.

                              Meanwhile, the Senate has pretty much collapsed all state-specific effects and is traveling right alongside the presidential track.

                              The 538 Senate page is gorgeous. Clean and simple. I wish TBRW? looked like that (and was optimized for phones like that).
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                              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Here comes the bump.

                                Hillary > 60 in NowCast. Trump crashing in FL, NV, NC and sliding a bit in OH. Those are the closest 4 states and are all counted in Trump's 254 EV.

                                Meanwhile, the Senate has pretty much collapsed all state-specific effects and is traveling right alongside the presidential track.

                                The 538 Senate page is gorgeous. Clean and simple. I wish TBRW? looked like that (and was optimized for phones like that).
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