Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

[GrinCDXX]

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"The Reagan years notwithstanding"?

Jesus H. Christ on a Popsicle stick, the Reagan years are how our rush into plutocracy went into hyperdrive.

That's where I stopped reading.

[ScoobyDoo]

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"The Reagan years notwithstanding"?

Jesus H. Christ on a Popsicle stick, the Reagan years are how our rush into plutocracy went into hyperdrive.

LOL. That's how they think.

[The Sicatoka]

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I recently asked a mentor, who has correctly picked the Presidential winner for the entirely of my life, if they could explain this election cycle to me. They responded:

"Well, one side thinks they're entitled to the job because they've punched their ticket, but a punched ticket doesn't mean you've been effective."

I smirked and said, "What about the other side?"

"Like Mussolini and Kennedy; Joseph Stalin and Gandhi."

My response:

"You'll figure it out."

Well, I think I did just now.

[FlagDUDE08]

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I don't put faith in those that have chosen correctly in the past. It's like saying you'll know the outcome of a coin flip because you picked the last ten correctly. The probability hasn't changed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-XMRu_q4s

[The Sicatoka]

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LOL. That's how they think.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure I found Kep's mission and vision statement in there:

America’s constitutional republic had given the American people too much latitude to be who they are, that is: religiously and socially reactionary, ignorant, even pathological, barriers to Progress. Thankfully, an enlightened minority exists with the expertise and the duty to disperse the religious obscurantism, the hypocritical talk of piety, freedom, and equality, which excuses Americans’ racism, sexism, greed, and rape of the environment. As we progressives take up our proper responsibilities, Americans will no longer live politically according to their prejudices; they will be ruled administratively according to scientific knowledge. ...

If trying to persuade irredeemable socio-political inferiors is no more appropriate than arguing with animals, why not just write them off by sticking dismissive names on them? Doing so is less challenging, and makes you feel superior. Why wrestle with the statistical questions implicit in Darwin when you can just dismiss Christians as Bible-thumpers?

[FlagDUDE08]

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Yeah, but I'm pretty sure I found Kep's mission and vision statement in there:

Aren't dismissive names just taking a book from the same "ignorant" folk they're trying to dissuade? The biggest issue I'm seeing is that all parties are trying to fight fire with fire.

[The Sicatoka]

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Same source:

Never before has such a large percentage of Americans expressed alienation from their leaders, resentment, even fear. Some two-thirds of Americans believe that elected and appointed officials—plus the courts, the justice system, business leaders, educators—are leading the country in the wrong direction: that they are corrupt, do more harm than good, make us poorer, get us into wars and lose them. Because this majority sees no one in the political mainstream who shares their concerns, because it lacks confidence that the system can be fixed, it is eager to empower whoever might flush the system and its denizens with something like an ungentle enema.

Donald Trump: the ungentle enema.

[Rover]

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For this reason they should probably not announce early voting totals until Election Day.

Why does early voting track with partisanship, though? Although it certainly helps Democratic voters with three jobs who can't take off half of Election Day to wait in the 4-hour lines created by the GOP governor and legislature, once in place it is just as convenient for fat Republican retirees in leafy suburbs to mail it in instead of having to interrupt their nonstop Fox viewing, crane themselves out of the Grand Canyon-sized perma butt crack in their sofas, and ride their Medicare-subsidized Hoverrounds down to Orval Faubus Memorial Courthouse to vote against those colored "moochers."

They don't announce the totals. They either tell you which side requested more ballots or in some cases they'll take a poll.

Regarding why Dems vote early, I'd say its an age thing. Older Americans are used to going on Tuesday in November. Younger ones are looking for convenience. I would suspect as early voting takes hold this will become less of a partisan issue but who knows?

[Handyman]

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Same source:



Donald Trump: the ungentle enema.

Then the people dont deserve the rights they have. If you would rather screw the system than try and fix it you are the problem not the solution.

[unofan]

They don't announce the totals. They either tell you which side requested more ballots or in some cases they'll take a poll.

Regarding why Dems vote early, I'd say its an age thing. Older Americans are used to going on Tuesday in November. Younger ones are looking for convenience. I would suspect as early voting takes hold this will become less of a partisan issue but who knows?

Republicans have closed that gap in Iowa. Early votes still trend left but not nearly as much as eight years ago.

The bigger thing to me is organization. When my wife and I voted early four years ago, all mail from the Dems stopped pretty much immediately. The GOP kept wasting money sending us flyers up through election day.

[Kepler]

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Well, I think I did just now.

Kickas-s song to play on Guitar Hero.

Those boys were very, very attractive.

[The Sicatoka]

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Then the people dont deserve the rights they have.

Wow.
And you call tDon the fascist?

[The Sicatoka]

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Kickas-s song to play on Guitar Hero.[/URL].

Guitar Hero? Meh, I just play one of these. I dream of some day having one like Les Claypool (and being able to play as well as Les, or Geddy).

[FlagDUDE08]

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Then the people dont deserve the rights they have. If you would rather screw the system than try and fix it you are the problem not the solution.

It's more of a lack of leadership with the same corrupt stuff. When that happens, the American people will listen to anyone who steps up to the mic and preaches something different, regardless of how much of a Harold Hill they may be. Obviously they must be vetted, or else we're going down the same path as Julius Caesar, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Barack Obama, or any other corrupt leader that took advantage of an unhappy populace to gain power only to drive things even further into the ground.

[ScoobyDoo]

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It's more of a lack of leadership with the same corrupt stuff. When that happens, the American people will listen to anyone who steps up to the mic and preaches something different, regardless of how much of a Harold Hill they may be. Obviously they must be vetted, or else we're going down the same path as Julius Caesar, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Barack Obama, or any other corrupt leader that took advantage of an unhappy populace to gain power only to drive things even further into the ground.

No, no it's not. It's fear and being led by fear. It's God, Guns, and Gays. It's the boogeyman. People should have listened to JFK. But, they shot him. Probably because he was right.