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  • #226
    Wonderful quote from Talleyrand:

    “He who has not lived in the eighteenth century before the Revolution does not know the sweetness of life and cannot imagine that there can be happiness in life. This is the century that has shaped all the conquering arms against this elusive adversary called boredom. Love, Poetry, Music, Theatre, Painting, Architecture, Court, Salons, Parks and Gardens, Gastronomy, Letters, Arts, Science, all contributed to the satisfaction of physical appetites, intellectual and even moral refinement of all pleasures, all the elegance and all the pleasures. The existence was so well filled that if the seventeenth century was the Great Age of glories, the eighteenth was that of indigestion.”
    Cornell University
    National Champion 1967, 1970
    ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
    Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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    • #227
      Originally posted by Kepler View Post

      This is assuming an "American" identity even developed, or that independence would ever be sought. It is entirely possible that instead the culture of a New England -- a broader, wider idyllic English identity in the tradition of Wordsworth and Keats (Whitman would fit right in) may have taken root. Rather than defining ourselves as anti-European we might instead have become uber-European, carrying the seeds of ancient Greece into the Western sunset. You can imagine all sorts of ways that would appeal to both cultural and mercantile narratives. America as England's "city of the broad shoulders," writ large.
      You should read ‘American Nations’ by (Maine author) Colin Woodard. One of the better books on history I’ve read and very accessible.
      Originally posted by BobbyBrady
      Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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      • #228
        There's still time to get Kissinger.
        Cornell University
        National Champion 1967, 1970
        ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
        Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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        • #229
          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          There's still time to get Kissinger.
          You want the US to invade the Netherlands?
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          Originally posted by SanTropez
          May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
          Originally posted by bigblue_dl
          I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
          Originally posted by Kepler
          When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
          He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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          • #230
            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

            You want the US to invade the Netherlands?
            I mean...

            Cornell University
            National Champion 1967, 1970
            ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
            Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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            • #231
              Lol
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              Originally posted by SanTropez
              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
              Originally posted by Kepler
              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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              • #232
                Must be a special subset. When I was there all I noticed was tall blondes.

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                • #233
                  Cornell University
                  National Champion 1967, 1970
                  ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                  Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                  • #234
                    Well, crap.


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                    • #235
                      I love how everyone is "I'm shocked, shocked" that the French did summary executions of German soldiers after being liberated.

                      Every abused population has responded that way to their abusers, the instant they had the chance, in all of world history.

                      The only time it didn't happen that I am aware of was black slaves didn't massacre Southern whites after the American Civil War, which was a huge missed opportunity.


                      Last edited by Kepler; 08-28-2023, 03:37 PM.
                      Cornell University
                      National Champion 1967, 1970
                      ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                      Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                      • #236
                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        The only time it didn't happen that I am aware of was black slaves didn't massacre Southern whites after the American Civil War, which was a huge missed opportunity.
                        Per the FL Department of Education, that's because they were grateful to their former masters for lifting their ancestors up out of nomadic, unskilled tribal life in West Africa. ;-)

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                        • #237
                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          I love how everyone is "I'm shocked, shocked" that the French did summary executions of German soldiers after being liberated.

                          Every abused population has responded that way to their abusers, the instant they had the chance, in all of world history.

                          The only time it didn't happen that I am aware of was black slaves didn't massacre Southern whites after the American Civil War, which was a huge missed opportunity.

                          I had the same reaction as you. I just can't get upset about it.
                          Code:
                          As of 9/21/10:         As of 9/13/10:
College Hockey 6       College Football 0
BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                          Originally posted by SanTropez
                          May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                          Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                          I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                          Originally posted by Kepler
                          When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                          He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                          • #238
                            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                            I had the same reaction as you. I just can't get upset about it.
                            Russian soldiers should take care not to be left behind when Ivan runs from Ukraine.

                            And I'm sure a lot of those Germans were just Private Derp in Baghdad with the US Army, but those are the guys who get it in the neck when they're behind lines facing the mothers of the children who were murdered by the "liberation." The tragedy is Cheney and Wolfowitz aren't there with them.

                            Don't smash and grab other people's country.


                            Last edited by Kepler; 08-29-2023, 08:22 AM.
                            Cornell University
                            National Champion 1967, 1970
                            ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                            Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                            • #239
                              Not sure how I could only have seen this today.
                              Cornell University
                              National Champion 1967, 1970
                              ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                              Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                              • #240
                                I'm watching a great channel on the Tube of U's about WWII, called World War Two. Good name. It's put together by the Time Ghost Army.

                                Thanks to new EU rules, Google has over reacted to restrict a TON of their new videos. So I encourage you to check the channel out- they do "live" coverage of the war, and we are almost exactly one year from the end of the war next Sept.

                                They need support to get through the last year of the war. https://www.youtube.com/@WorldWarTwo

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