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  • #766
    Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
    Really? Meanwhile, Rover, who once bragged to me that he could "buy me" ten times over due to his wealth, and Kep, who's looking for a retirement villa in the southwest at age 53, who can't wait to vote for people like Sanders or HRC who want to stick it to the one-percenters. You guys ever stop to think that maybe people vote against what might be in their best financial interests just because they think that candidate will otherwise be better for the country?
    First off, I doubt that poor people who vote Republican think they are making a deliberate economic sacrifice for the good of the country. I think they really believe the Republican economics will be better for them personally.

    Secondly, it's great that I can afford to vote to cut my own throat with higher taxes for higher incomes. That's a luxury. If you're poor and you're still doing that while your kids go hungry and you can't afford to educate them, that doesn't make you a patriot, it makes you a sh-tty parent. But like I said, I doubt any of them think that is what they are doing.
    Last edited by Kepler; 08-22-2016, 12:35 PM.
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    • #767
      Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

      I'll reiterate that the lasting legacy of those smelly Occupy Wall St little bahstids was coining the "1%er" phrase to define the uber rich that get all the benefits of Republican policies. Can someone name me the last GOP proposal that hurt the wealthy? People support policies that don't benefit them because as Kep alluded to they think these policies do actually have something in it for them. Take tax cuts for the rich. Awhile back a poll showed like half of people thought they were in the top tax bracket, even though a fraction of them are. So, when knuckledraggers talk about cutting the top tax rate, they equate that with getting a tax cut even though they'll never see it. Now when you explain the Trump-Ryan-Romney-etc-etc tax cuts are all going to the 1%, most people realize they're not in the top 1% of income earners. Consequently Trump is about to get crushed.
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      • #768
        Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

        RCP No Toss Ups has now reached 2 weeks without a state changing. It is sitting as Clinton winning 362-176, with chalk plus all the purples and GA going blue.

        Their Senate NTU is 50/50 with Mr. Kaine resolving ties, so yes hello, Ninth Circuit? Send me up a brace of wild-eyed young leftists, please. Yes, I'll hold.

        To give an idea of where we are in the campaign, there are now fewer than half as many days before the election (77) as since the Scalia vacancy (159).
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        • #769
          Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          First off, I doubt that poor people who vote Republican think they are making a deliberate economic sacrifice for the good of the country. I think they really believe the Republican economics will be better for them personally.

          Secondly, it's great that I can afford to vote to cut my own throat with higher taxes for higher incomes. That's a luxury. If you're poor and you're still doing that while your kids go hungry and you can't afford to educate them, that doesn't make you a patriot, it makes you a sh-tty parent. But like I said, I doubt any of them think that is what they are doing.
          I don't believe that poor people who vote R do so thinking they are making an economic sacrifice for the good of the country. But I also don't think they are voting that way because they think Republicans are going to pass laws better for them economically. I think they tend to vote the way they do because social issues may be more important to them than economic ones.
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          • #770
            Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

            Well THIS is interesting. Nice people the Trump campaign hires...

            https://www.apnews.com/d98c99e862654...s-online-posts
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            • #771
              Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

              Originally posted by Rover View Post
              Well THIS is interesting. Nice people the Trump campaign hires...

              https://www.apnews.com/d98c99e862654...s-online-posts
              I'm playing a game here. I haven't clicked it yet so my nominations are:

              white supremacist, Holocaust denier, war criminal, Fundy pedophile, and disbarred attorney

              and my winner is white supremacist.

              C'mon, white supremacist!

              And the winner is...

              ... well, dayum. Looks like the winner is all of the above.
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              • #772
                Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                Ah yes. The classic paternalistic hogwash pedaled by people on the left like Rover.

                The poor wretched masses. Simply too stupid and poor to even understand what's best for them. Tsk, tsk.

                Really? Meanwhile, Rover, who once bragged to me that he could "buy me" ten times over due to his wealth, and Kep, who's looking for a retirement villa in the southwest at age 53, who can't wait to vote for people like Sanders or HRC who want to stick it to the one-percenters. You guys ever stop to think that maybe people vote against what might be in their best financial interests just because they think that candidate will otherwise be better for the country?
                It's even funnier when those whining about sticking it to the 1%ers are 1%ers. Put your money where your mouth is, and send your money to Parkersburg WV to reduce the public debt.

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                • #773
                  Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                  Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                  It's even funnier when those whining about sticking it to the 1%ers are 1%ers. Put your money where your mouth is, and send your money to Parkersburg WV to reduce the public debt.
                  The absolute stupidest argument ever. The US Government isn't a charity and cannot be funded that way.
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                  • #774
                    Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                    It's even funnier when those whining about sticking it to the 1%ers are 1%ers. Put your money where your mouth is, and send your money to Parkersburg WV to reduce the public debt.


                    Almost as silly as "we should run the government like a household budget." Yeah -- talk to corporate CEOs about that.
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                    • #775
                      Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                      Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                      Really? Meanwhile, Rover, who once bragged to me that he could "buy me" ten times over due to his wealth, and Kep, who's looking for a retirement villa in the southwest at age 53, who can't wait to vote for people like Sanders or HRC who want to stick it to the one-percenters.
                      It's adorable that you think that qualifies for the 1%.
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                      • #776
                        Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        The absolute stupidest argument ever. The US Government isn't a charity and cannot be funded that way.
                        And yet the federal government does technically accept monetary gifts from its citizens. So DC is at least willing to partially fund the government that way.
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                        • #777
                          Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                          Originally posted by MaizeRage View Post
                          It's adorable that you think that qualifies for the 1%.
                          If you consider household annual income, $450k is the top 1%. If you consider wealth, it's $8M.

                          All I can say is Dr. Mrs. better get a raise...

                          50% tax per year on all wealth over $8M. Problem solved.
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                          • #778
                            Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            If you consider household annual income, $450k is the top 1%. If you consider wealth, it's $8M.

                            All I can say is Dr. Mrs. better get a raise...

                            50% tax per year on all wealth over $8M. Problem solved.
                            But werent we told rich people making $250k a year couldnt make ends meet? That was of course after the same person said teachers were rich money grubbers scamming the system
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                            • #779
                              Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                              Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                              But werent we told rich people making $250k a year couldnt make ends meet? That was of course after the same person said teachers were rich money grubbers scamming the system
                              I find the shape of the graph the most interesting part. Really slams it home for me.
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                              • #780
                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                                Journalistic integrity doesn't sell. It used to be you could make money off of it. Now you can't. It's gone. The ship has sailed. There's more investigative journalism in a 1/2 hour comedy piece by John Oliver than there is in the Wall Street Journal every month.
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