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  • #886
    Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

    Ipsos just released a huge dump of state polls for 45 states. This is very good because many states had few (or zero) data points from good pollsters since Spring or even last Winter.

    As a whole the polls themselves look pretty much to be expected although MO has Clinton way up, which is very hard to believe.

    One thing that seems pretty safe now is that UT will not be getting anywhere close to blue despite Mormons' disgust with Trump. When you start out as R +47.9(!) even a 35-point slide still leave R with a comfortable double-digit win.
    Last edited by Kepler; 08-25-2016, 01:18 PM.
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    • #887
      Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

      Originally posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
      Here's an article with Mylan CEO Heather Bresch's response to criticism.


      Mrs. Bresch says that if they lowered retail they wouldn't be able to provide the drug for free to lower income people, and (no doubt as a result of publicity) they are now going to expand that program to include 4x federal poverty level.

      Which is pretty much how all drug companies operate, especially the last few years in my experience. Aren't they nice?

      But wait... If nearly everyone has insurance now, who the heck are they giving it away to? Well, everyone below 4x federal poverty level, of course. (a little under $64k total for a couple)
      Charging a working class couple double or triple for a necessity and giving it away to a couple making $40k so they don't have to even pay a deductible or co-pay is more efficient for the insurance and pharma company than trying to chase after $ from a lower income couple who statistically is more likely to end up in a collection. (But really it's because they're nice.)

      The health industry and the ACA is rife with hidden or unregulated redistributions like this.
      I still don't understand. They're the manufacturer. The distributions/discounting should be done at the government and insurance company level. Not at the pharma level. This system is completely wack.
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      • #888
        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Ipsos just released a huge dump of state polls for 45 states. This is very good because many states had few (or zero) data points from good pollsters since Spring or even last Winter.

        As a whole the polls themselves look pretty much to be expected although MO has Clinton way up, which is very hard to believe.

        One thing that seems pretty safe now is that UT will not be getting anywhere close to blue despite Mormons' disgust with Trump. When you start out as R +47.9(!) even a 35-point slide still leave R with a comfortable double-digit win.
        Trump +3 in Maine was surprising to me.

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        • #889
          Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

          Epipen isn't the only price hike by Mylan.

          Beyond that, "Mylan has taken some exceptionally large price increases in 2016," Wells Fargo senior analyst David Maris wrote in a report in June.

          "Mylan has raised the prices more than 20 percent on 24 products, and more than 100 percent on seven products," Maris wrote.
          http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/23/how-m...ng-epipen.html
          A bad cause requires many words.

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          • #890
            Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

            Originally posted by Almington View Post
            Trump +3 in Maine was surprising to me.
            Yeah, that one seems off, too.
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            • #891
              Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
              It's a total flip flop. But, I listened to a few smart pundits the other day explain why Hillary isn't going after the flip flopping. And the reason is the flip flopping isn't clear. His positions have been all over the map. He's so schizophrenic about everything that trying to pin flip flopper on him is a fruitless exercise.
              The pundit is correct...she gains zero by doing it. People can see the truth he makes it too obvious
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              • #892
                Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                Guy who got his start being sued for racial discrimination in housing calls woman who got her start exposing racial discrimination in schools receiving public funding a bigot: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...&ICID=ref_fark
                So Drumpf's plan is to bring in one of the figureheads of one of the most boneheaded moves in modern global politics...cant see a way this goes bad
                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                -aparch

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                • #893
                  Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  That might not be Trump's fault. My understanding is the state party is responsible for those mechanics. But if I were the national campaign coordinator I would certainly have verified something that basic.
                  The MN Republican party hasn't registered Trump with the state elections board because the state party doesn't want Trump weighing down the rest of the down ticket candidates.
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                  • #894
                    Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                    How do these ****ing ********s get elected?

                    http://www.pressherald.com/2016/08/2...k-or-hispanic/
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                    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                    • #895
                      Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      How do these ****ing ********s get elected?

                      http://www.pressherald.com/2016/08/2...k-or-hispanic/
                      Here's the thing with that story: If Lapage (big IF, it appears) is telling the truth about keeping a binder of all the drug dealer arrests made in ME since his last comments, AND his figures are anywhere near accurate, that points the finger at either an issue with the various police forces in ME or a lot of minority drug dealers who also happen to be exceedingly stupid.

                      What's worse is that if Lapage's numbers are correct, and the state legislator lambasting the governor's figures, giving the police more "resources they need" won't address the institutional racism present, only allow for more overall arrests. It's like trying to put out a fire by throwing gasoline at the flame.
                      "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                      "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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                      • #896
                        Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                        Believable.
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                        • #897
                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Originally posted by Almington View Post
                          Trump +3 in Maine was surprising to me.
                          Yeah, that one seems off, too.
                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          How do these ****ing ********s get elected?

                          http://www.pressherald.com/2016/08/2...k-or-hispanic/
                          Looks like Scooby solved the case for Almington and Kepler.
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                          • #898
                            Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                            Apparently even with Trump at the top the GOP will have it's stranglehold on everything else. Thank goodness they'll at least lose the Supreme Court.

                            http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/26/us...smtyp=cur&_r=0
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                            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                            Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                            • #899
                              Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                              How do these ****ing ********s get elected?

                              http://www.pressherald.com/2016/08/2...k-or-hispanic/
                              If his number is correct, it's correct. And you start asking why.

                              If his number is wrong his opponents are preparing the rotisserie and fetching the BBQ sauce.
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                              • #900
                                Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                                Apparently even with Trump at the top the GOP will have it's stranglehold on everything else. Thank goodness they'll at least lose the Supreme Court.

                                http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/26/us...smtyp=cur&_r=0
                                The predictions I have seen have varied been D52 and D50. They haven't blown it yet.

                                I think the House is a longshot, though, unless Trump really does cause a mass AWOL of R support in November.
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