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  • #871
    Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    You have to admire Trump. He buried the field on immigration and then adopted their position for the general. Pure genius.
    It would be the perfect plan too if it didnt **** off quite a bit of his base...
    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
    -aparch

    "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
    -INCH

    Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
    -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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    • #872
      Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
      It would be the perfect plan too if it didnt **** off quite a bit of his base...
      It's a total flip flop. But, I listened to a few smart pundits the other day explain why Hillary isn't going after the flip flopping. And the reason is the flip flopping isn't clear. His positions have been all over the map. He's so schizophrenic about everything that trying to pin flip flopper on him is a fruitless exercise.
      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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      • #873
        Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

        Originally posted by Handyman View Post
        It would be the perfect plan too if it didnt **** off quite a bit of his base...
        While picking up nobody because nobody trusts him.

        But other than that...
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        • #874
          Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

          Originally posted by bronconick View Post
          Worst run campaign ever
          I once asked a political science professor friend of mine what factors he looked at in determining whether a candidate had the skills to serve as POTUS (other than party platform). He cited the ability to run a national campaign. It takes a good motivator, the ability to hire good people and to delegate when you should without abdicating responsibilities you should not. It also requires physical stamina, the ability to think on your feet and good crisis management skills. Made sense to me.

          That comment was from 20 years ago. A lot has changed, I suppose.
          Last edited by burd; 08-25-2016, 12:04 PM.

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          • #875
            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
            Mylan can go **** themselves.
            Ms. Bresh is the daughter of WVA senator Joe Manchin. She can give Congress the byrd.
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            • #876
              Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

              Guy who got his start being sued for racial discrimination in housing calls woman who got her start exposing racial discrimination in schools receiving public funding a bigot: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...&ICID=ref_fark

              Cornell '04, Stanford '06

              KDR

              Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
              iwh30 I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man
              gregg729 I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence."
              Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
              Miss Thundercat That's it, you win.
              TBA#2 I want to kill you and dance in your blood.
              DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

              Test to see if I can add this.

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              • #877
                Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                Guy who got his start being sued for racial discrimination in housing calls woman who got her start exposing racial discrimination in schools receiving public funding a bigot: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...&ICID=ref_fark
                Deferment draft dodging darlings Dubya and Cheney called veteran Kerry (a Bronze Star, a Silver Star and three Purple Hearts) a "coward."

                And it worked.

                These people have no shame.
                Last edited by Kepler; 08-25-2016, 12:25 PM.
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                • #878
                  Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  Deferment draft dodging darlings Dubya and Cheney called veteran Kerry (a Bronze Star, a Silver Star and three Purple Hearts) a "coward."

                  And it worked.

                  These people have no shame.
                  I'm just surprised he would tell his biggest remaining voting bloc that they should vote for the other side.

                  Cornell '04, Stanford '06

                  KDR

                  Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
                  iwh30 I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man
                  gregg729 I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence."
                  Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
                  Miss Thundercat That's it, you win.
                  TBA#2 I want to kill you and dance in your blood.
                  DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

                  Test to see if I can add this.

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                  • #879
                    Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                    August poll now up.
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                    • #880
                      Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                      Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                      I'm just surprised he would tell his biggest remaining voting bloc that they should vote for the other side.
                      It's part of his secret strategy to form a Black Power movement.
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                      • #881
                        Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                        Here's where you have to admire the Clinton campaign. They are absolutely relentless in portraying everything Trump does as that of the moves of a deranged lunatic huckster. This immigration "pivot" will also be viewed with that lens.

                        Same thing with that absurd sensational AP story about the Clinton Foundation. They ripped them to shreds inside of two days. If this was the Kerry campaign they'd be waiting around until election day for the media to correct themselves.
                        Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                        Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                        "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                        • #882
                          Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                          Originally posted by Rover View Post
                          Here's where you have to admire the Clinton campaign. They are absolutely relentless in portraying everything Trump does as that of the moves of a deranged lunatic huckster. This immigration "pivot" will also be viewed with that lens.

                          Same thing with that absurd sensational AP story about the Clinton Foundation. They ripped them to shreds inside of two days. If this was the Kerry campaign they'd be waiting around until election day for the media to correct themselves.
                          You're right about this. Imagine how Dukakis would have hemmed and hawed. Imagine how Gore would have taken the academic high road and gotten destroyed at town halls and diner stops.

                          The Clintons were already a tight ship back in '92 and they've only gotten better. It helps to have a good product to push out the door (when people say Chelsea is going to run someday I laugh my fanny off -- there is no way on God's green earth that either she or her robo-call-come-to-life-huckster-husband will ever be elected dog catcher), but my goodness the Clintons are, outside the horse race and who one is rooting for, a perfect killing machine when it comes to campaigning. They are terrifyingly efficient.
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                          • #883
                            Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                            Clinton campaign was brilliant in setting up Media Matters, run by a former right wing hatchet man who knows all the media tricks. They let no story go unanswered and let no one off the hook. This is going to be the template for campaigns going forward. Have your own media shop instead of only your campaign continually pushing back on negative stories from the lazy mainstream press looking to push easy but sensational headlines. That allows the campaign to stay on message regarding Trump.

                            This really does remind me of the '88 campaign in reverse.
                            Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                            Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                            "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                            • #884
                              Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                              Originally posted by Rover View Post
                              This really does remind me of the '88 campaign in reverse.
                              Trump takes his tank with him wherever he goes.
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                              • #885
                                Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                                Mylan can go **** themselves.
                                Here's an article with Mylan CEO Heather Bresch's response to criticism.


                                Mrs. Bresch says that if they lowered retail they wouldn't be able to provide the drug for free to lower income people, and (no doubt as a result of publicity) they are now going to expand that program to include 4x federal poverty level.

                                Which is pretty much how all drug companies operate, especially the last few years in my experience. Aren't they nice?

                                But wait... If nearly everyone has insurance now, who the heck are they giving it away to? Well, everyone below 4x federal poverty level, of course. (a little under $64k total for a couple)
                                Charging a working class couple double or triple for a necessity and giving it away to a couple making $40k so they don't have to even pay a deductible or co-pay is more efficient for the insurance and pharma company than trying to chase after $ from a lower income couple who statistically is more likely to end up in a collection. (But really it's because they're nice.)

                                The health industry and the ACA is rife with hidden or unregulated redistributions like this.
                                Originally posted by WiscTJK
                                I'm with Wisko and Tim.
                                Originally posted by Timothy A
                                Other than Wisko McBadgerton and Badger Bob, who is universally loved by all?

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