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  • #571
    Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    I can try to live my life under those two principles. Hopefully if more people did, then weight of numbers would prevail.

    It's not going to happen overnight - not even via judicial decree. But we (I) have to start somewhere.

    Both parties crush the weak in favor of the strong. Creating dependencies is bad. Crushing confidence is horrible. But (guess where I'm going), I cannot and will not ever condone the weakest among us (guess who) being annihilated for convenience sake. One party makes it part of their core beliefs. Never can or will I support them as long as they support it.
    How do the dems crush the weak?
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    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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    • #572
      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
      How do the dems crush the weak?
      He's talking about the "red zone/ white zone" debate that's been going on for 40 years.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FyOX4G7TmE0

      Edit: Fark, the clip ends before the relevant line. He's talking about abortion.
      Last edited by unofan; 12-16-2016, 11:41 AM.

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      • #573
        Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
        How do the dems crush the weak?
        Joe is a single issue voter: Abortion.

        Doesn't matter how evil the Republicans are, as long as they are against a woman's right to control her body Joe is happy.

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        • #574
          Originally posted by BassAle View Post
          Joe is a single issue voter: Abortion.

          Doesn't matter how evil the Republicans are, as long as they are against a woman's right to control her body Joe is happy.
          All life is sacred from the moment of conception to the moment of natural death. Which, I freely admit, conflicts with capital punishment. However, pure evil must be eradicated and not allowed to grow. So that's how I split a moral hair.

          I would be vehemently against any party that promoted or practiced genocide, regardless of how well they got the economy running. Surely we could agree on that?
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          • #575
            Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            All life is sacred from the moment of conception to the moment of natural death. Which, I freely admit, conflicts with capital punishment. However, pure evil must be eradicated and not allowed to grow. So that's how I split a moral hair.

            I would be vehemently against any party that promoted or practiced genocide, regardless of how well they got the economy running. Surely we could agree on that?
            Pure evil can be eradicated without the aid of capital punishment. And I don't know that I would want human beings determining what "pure evil" really is. Your evil may not be the same as most other people's evil. The only acceptable argument in favor of capital punishment is that a person believes there are some offenses one person can commit that cause them to forfeit the right to continue living. Why dress it up as something other than that by trying to sound noble?

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            • #576
              Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              I would be vehemently against any party that promoted or practiced genocide, regardless of how well they got the economy running. Surely we could agree on that?
              sure.

              I just don't buy that aborting a clump of cells without a brain is murder. At what point does an embryo become a 'person'? I don't really know, but I don't think anyone wants a late term abortion unless it is medically necessary. I don't think anyone likes abortion. I'd rather keep it legal, accessible, and safe, and get it done as early as possible. And I certainly believe it is none of my business. In a perfect world, it would only be necessary if the life of the mother is in danger. Unfortunately one group of people does not believe in comprehensive sex education and prefer sticking their head in the sand and pushing abstinence only education.



              I don't think any life is sacred. We're animals, and no more special than any other in the grand scheme of the universe. I'm sure you don't have a problem eating a cheeseburger.
              Last edited by BassAle; 12-16-2016, 12:21 PM.

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              • #577
                Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                All life is sacred from the moment of conception to the moment of natural death. Which, I freely admit, conflicts with capital punishment. However, pure evil must be eradicated and not allowed to grow. So that's how I split a moral hair.

                I would be vehemently against any party that promoted or practiced genocide, regardless of how well they got the economy running. Surely we could agree on that?
                I can understand how you would be a one issue voter and back the Republicans given your stance on abortion. That's fine. I would expect you to also oppose abortion in cases of rape and incest to be morally consistent. That makes sense.

                But I think you're "creating dependence" language is laughably partisan. That's what conservatives tell themselves to quiet their consciences. I believe that because you are a Christian you know that the Republican attitude towards helping "the least among us" is a moral abomination. Jesus never said "don't feed the hungry, you're only stifling their entrepreneurial spirit!"
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                • #578
                  Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                  Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                  I just don't buy that aborting a clump of cells without a brain is murder.
                  Abstinence is murder. Go f-ck somebody right now.
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                  • #579
                    Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                    Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                    I don't think any life is sacred. We're animals, and no more special than any other in the grand scheme of the universe. I'm sure you don't have a problem eating a cheeseburger.
                    I'm biased towards life. It does cool things like let balls roll between its legs to let Ray Knight score from second.

                    Human life takes precedence because (1) we're human and everybody loves their own farts and (2) so far humans are the only life we've found who has the ability to sign contracts with the Red Sox so years later they can let said ball roll between their legs. When we discover the Kzinti I'll rethink it. They look like they'd make good corner outfielders. And their woman are non-sentient which would appeal to Keith Hernandez.
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                    • #580
                      Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Abstinence is murder. Go f-ck somebody right now.
                      sorry, I've been to the vet and got neutered. all of my poor little sperm are sentenced to death.

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                      • #581
                        Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        I'm biased towards life. It does cool things like let balls roll between its legs to let Ray Knight score from second.

                        Human life takes precedence because (1) we're human and everybody loves their own farts and (2) so far humans are the only life we've found who has the ability to sign contracts with the Red Sox so years later they can let said ball roll between their legs. When we discover the Kzinti I'll rethink it. They look like they'd make good corner outfielders. And their woman are non-sentient which would appeal to Keith Hernandez.
                        sure, it's normal for humans to care more about the well being of other humans than a cow. But I don't think it's because we are somehow special and our lives are sacred.

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                        • #582
                          Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                          Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                          sure, it's normal for humans to care more about the well being of other humans than a cow. But I don't think it's because we are somehow special and our lives are sacred.
                          Well, the reason we do care about our species is the same reason we care about our family / clan / church / nation / skin color: we are territorial apes hardwired to put borders around everything and start killin' anything on the other side.

                          But I'm saying there's actually a good, non-ape reason to mark off our species as special. When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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                          • #583
                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Well, the reason we do care about our species is the same reason we care about our family / clan / church / nation / skin color: we are territorial apes hardwired to put borders around everything and start killin' anything on the other side.

                            But I'm saying there's actually a good, non-ape reason to mark off our species as special. When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                            One of my cats is more intelligent than most four year olds. Does that count?

                            (One of her favorite things to do, if we leave the door to the garage unlocked, is to jump up and unlatch it, then watch the other cat use his claws to open the door enough to get out. She then strolls away without a care in the world since he hasn't figured out how to get back in)

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                            • #584
                              Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                              I'm sigging this.
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                              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
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                              Originally posted by Kepler
                              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                              • #585
                                Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                                Originally posted by unofan View Post
                                One of my cats is more intelligent than most four year olds. Does that count?

                                (One of her favorite things to do, if we leave the door to the garage unlocked, is to jump up and unlatch it, then watch the other cat use his claws to open the door enough to get out. She then strolls away without a care in the world since he hasn't figured out how to get back in)
                                I've had 7 cats in my life. And I love my cats. But they're as dumb as a stump.
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