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  • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

    Originally posted by Twitch Boy View Post
    Stories that the guy apparently dropped some big coin at the casinos in the past. Five figure sums.
    Yup: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f781ed64e217

    Eric Paddock said his brother often gambled in tens of thousands of dollars. “My brother is not like you and me. He plays high-stakes video poker,” he said. “He sends me a text that says he won $250,000 at the casino.”

    Eric Paddock said he showed the FBI three years of text messages from his brother and said he had no information whether Stephen Paddock had gambling debts or was financially troubled. “I have absolutely no information he lost a bunch of money. The casino would know that,” he said.

    Eric Paddock said his brother previously worked as an accountant but also had real estate investments, including houses and apartments around Orlando. He said Stephen Paddock had no kids and plenty of money to play with.
    For several years, the gunman lived with his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in a retirement community in Reno, Nev., neighbors said. They said they interacted with Danley but not with Paddock, whom they described as extremely standoffish. Danley told residents there that Paddock was a professional gambler, explaining their long absences from the neighborhood.
    She only saw him in the mornings, when he went to the clubhouse to work out. Occasionally, he would open the garage door, revealing a large safe the size of a refrigerator. Other than that, the couple kept their blinds closed.

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    • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

      Originally posted by hockeyplayer1015 View Post
      So, I've been to the one in LV (Battlefield Las Vegas) about 2 years ago. Phenomenal place, really. Just about any weapon you could want to shoot, they had it. But it's ran by all former military, and as bbdl alluded to, things are extremely tightly controlled. I never felt unsafe, regardless of who was around me. The range officers were literally an arms reach away at all times.

      Got to shoot an AK-47, Uzi, Barrett .50 sniper, and essentially the M4. They had probably >100 different weapons.
      I'm always amazed at the professionalism and safety consciousness of the ex-mil guys who are into guns.

      They aren't the problem. The problem are the weekend warrior eejits.
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        Las Vegas casualties compared to battles of the Revolutionary War.
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        • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          I'm always amazed at the professionalism and safety consciousness of the ex-mil guys who are into guns.

          They aren't the problem. The problem are the weekend warrior eejits.
          Also, if we're talking things/people that are the problem. People that own guns and don't have them secured, behind a lock and key, are a huge problem IMO. I own several guns, mostly for trap/skeet and hunting. Every one (besides a couple that are no longer functional and are hanging on the wall as decorations) is locked in a safe, where no one but me, and my wife, is able to get to them. I don't think that this is an issue with this tragedy, but it is with almost every story you hear about a 4 year old shooting him/herself.
          Having a clear conscience just means you have a bad memory or you had a boring weekend.

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          • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

            Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post
            "Information"...no.
            Infowars is propaganda.
            InfoWars is the ramblings of an egomaniacal drunk.

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            • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

              Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
              Also, if we're talking things/people that are the problem. People that own guns and don't have them secured, behind a lock and key, are a huge problem IMO. I own several guns, mostly for trap/skeet and hunting. Every one (besides a couple that are no longer functional and are hanging on the wall as decorations) is locked in a safe, where no one but me, and my wife, is able to get to them. I don't think that this is an issue with this tragedy, but it is with almost every story you hear about a 4 year old shooting him/herself.
              In my experience well-trained gun nuts are hyper conscious of safety issues. The issue is Jefferson Beauregard Dampnuts, who would have flunked the corps psych test but needs an arsenal as a crutch to prop up his limp self-esteem.
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              • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                I haven't seen any numbers on this question, but one of things I was wondering when I saw the video clips was whether any deaths or injuries were caused by the chaos that ensued when the shooting started, or were they all gunshot deaths and injuries. I have to believe there was a horrific stampede to get out of what is a fenced in area.
                That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                  Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                  InfoWars is the ramblings of an egomaniacal drunk.
                  It's neither. It's flypaper to catch suckers who are then separated from their money. Alex Jones isn't crazy. He isn't an ideologue. He's a con man and he knows how to suck Flag's wallet dry. He's a televangelist and his faith is wingnuttery rather than Jeebus. But televangelists don't believe in god, they just use it.
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                  • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                    I haven't seen any numbers on this question, but one of things I was wondering when I saw the video clips was whether any deaths or injuries were caused by the chaos that ensued when the shooting started, or were they all gunshot deaths and injuries. I have to believe there was a horrific stampede to get out of what is a fenced in area.
                    I would assume so. That might be the big difference between the initial number (200) and the later one (500). The first were shot, the second were trampled.
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                    • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                      Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
                      A large majority of people that want gun control are not against hunting. There are some that are, but I get the impression that the number of people in that group is quite small.
                      yeah, I have no problem with hunting or owning weapons used for hunting (provided you aren't mentally ill or have been convicted of a violent crime)
                      I do think there should be more restrictions on hand guns and I think "military-style" guns and high capacity magazines should be banned.

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                      • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                        Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                        yeah, I have no problem with hunting or owning weapons used for hunting (provided you aren't mentally ill or have been convicted of a violent crime)
                        I do think there should be more restrictions on hand guns and I think "military-style" guns and high capacity magazines should be banned.
                        This all seems reasonable to me. As a rule I'd just prefer the locality to decide. Cities should ban all weapons. BFE Montana you can have heavy artillery if you want -- what's there to damage?
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                        • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          In my experience well-trained gun nuts are hyper conscious of safety issues. The issue is Jefferson Beauregard Dampnuts, who would have flunked the corps psych test but needs an arsenal as a crutch to prop up his limp self-esteem.
                          I know I've posted it on here, but I have a friend that took a gun safety class and bought a handgun for home defense (why, I don't really know -- half my neighbors don't bother locking their doors) -- the "instructor" (and the person he purchased the gun from) was someone that my friends husband met at work. He didn't believe in using the safety on a gun, because it could take too long to turn off. He also wouldn't walk to the mailbox at the end of his driveway without a loaded gun, and had loaded guns stashed all over his house (with the safety off, I'm sure). His wife also carried a loaded gun in her purse (safety off!!). This nut-job is out there teaching other people about "gun safety" (my friend and his husband are smart enough to know this guy is a nut-job).

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                          • Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                            Very neighborly of you. Why wouldn't you go over and just ask them to stop if its bothering you? Most gun owners I know would respect that and stop.
                            Because I live in a large city and my neighbors house is six feet away.

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                            • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                              Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                              yeah, I have no problem with hunting or owning weapons used for hunting (provided you aren't mentally ill or have been convicted of a violent crime)
                              I do think there should be more restrictions on hand guns and I think "military-style" guns and high capacity magazines should be banned.
                              One of the things that I thought of when you mentioned hand guns is that there are a few different categories of gun violence that continually get brought up (because they are problems).

                              First, we have mass shootings, where one or more people try to shoot as many innocent people as quickly as possible.
                              Second, accidental shootings, usually involving kids or some form of idiocy.
                              Third, gang/cartel violence.

                              All three require different solutions, and different strategies, IMO.
                              Having a clear conscience just means you have a bad memory or you had a boring weekend.

                              RIP - Kirby

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                              • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                                Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                                yeah, I have no problem with hunting or owning weapons used for hunting (provided you aren't mentally ill or have been convicted of a violent crime)
                                I do think there should be more restrictions on hand guns and I think "military-style" guns and high capacity magazines should be banned.
                                And then just expand "mentally ill" so that practically no one can have one. Forget it.

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