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  • #751
    Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

    Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
    Jesus ****.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/06...exas-town.html

    I sure hope I don't read anything more awful than this for a helluva a long time.
    I dont care that they are kids...throw the book at them.
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    • #752
      Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

      Raise the Price of Schizophrenia Drugs...

      "Lannett increase the cost of fluphenazine, which treats certain symptoms of the mental disease, by 1,650 percent earlier this year, even though drug companies such as Valeant and Turing caused public outrage for their unexplainable price hike, according to Forbes."

      “Sometimes you have no choice but to raise the price or discontinuing a product if you’re not going to make money on it,” Bedrosian told the Wall Street Journal last month.

      The company defended its price hike by claiming it is consistent with industry norms.

      “Before a patient purchases a prescription medication, drug distributors, wholesalers, insurance companies, and pharmacies impose markups that increase the price that the end consumers ultimately pays,” the company said in a statement."
      "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
      -aparch

      "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
      -INCH

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      -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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      • #753
        Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

        Originally posted by Handyman View Post
        Raise the Price of Schizophrenia Drugs...

        "Lannett increase the cost of fluphenazine, which treats certain symptoms of the mental disease, by 1,650 percent earlier this year, even though drug companies such as Valeant and Turing caused public outrage for their unexplainable price hike, according to Forbes."

        “Sometimes you have no choice but to raise the price or discontinuing a product if you’re not going to make money on it,” Bedrosian told the Wall Street Journal last month.

        The company defended its price hike by claiming it is consistent with industry norms.

        “Before a patient purchases a prescription medication, drug distributors, wholesalers, insurance companies, and pharmacies impose markups that increase the price that the end consumers ultimately pays,” the company said in a statement."
        I posted the article that explains this in the PPACA thread I believe. It's called Value Based Pricing. Them saying they don't make money on it is BS. They want to maximize profits.
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        • #754
          Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
          I posted the article that explains this in the PPACA thread I believe. It's called Value Based Pricing. Them saying they don't make money on it is BS. They want to maximize profits.
          My girlfriend's late brother was Schizophrenic...to say this makes me sick is an understatement.
          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
          -aparch

          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
          -INCH

          Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
          -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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          • #755
            Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

            "I was being sarcastic!"

            I agree with the first Twatter response. You sir, are no Daily Show correspondent.

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            • #756
              Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

              Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
              "I was being sarcastic!"

              I agree with the first Twatter response. You sir, are no Daily Show correspondent.
              Righties aren't funny. Funny requires empathy.
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              • #757
                Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

                Originally posted by Handyman View Post

                “Before a patient purchases a prescription medication, drug distributors, wholesalers, insurance companies, and pharmacies impose markups that increase the price that the end consumers ultimately pays,” the company said in a statement."
                It's even worse than that.

                You're going to see some class action lawsuits working there way through the system relating to insurance scams pulled by all the major players pertaining to drug purchases. The scam works this way.

                You buy health insurance and you have a co-pay for when you go to fill a prescription. Let's say it's $10 or $20.

                The pharmacy has a price they charge for the drug. It includes the cost to them, plus a fee.

                Through companies, called Pharmacy Benefits Managers, the transaction is processed. The pharmacy is required by it's contracts to collect the entirety of the co-pay from the customer. The difference between the cost of the drug and the co-pay is then paid by the health insurer to the pharmacy.

                Except, in a great many transactions the charge by the pharmacy is less than the co-pay. Customers don't realize it. After all, a bottle of pills certainly doesn't cost less than $10 or $20 does it?

                The difference, referred to by various terms, including "clawback", is just kept by the health insurer, the Pharmacy Benefits Manager, or split between them. Keep in mind that most of the major Pharmacy Benefits Managers are owned by the insurance companies themselves.

                Probably amounts to billions of dollars, and the outcome of these lawsuits, which are just gearing up, will be interesting to see.
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                • #758
                  Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

                  SJHovey, I've filled prescriptions for less than my copay in the past. I'm not sure that situation is quite as universal as you think, but I wouldn't doubt that it exists for recurring prescriptions - blood pressure meds, and the like.
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                  • #759
                    Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

                    Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                    SJHovey, I've filled prescriptions for less than my copay in the past. I'm not sure that situation is quite as universal as you think, but I wouldn't doubt that it exists for recurring prescriptions - blood pressure meds, and the like.
                    I think it was a New Orleans TV station that first started digging into the story.

                    http://www.fox8live.com/story/333374...al-waste-probe
                    That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                    • #760
                      Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

                      Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                      SJHovey, I've filled prescriptions for less than my copay in the past. I'm not sure that situation is quite as universal as you think, but I wouldn't doubt that it exists for recurring prescriptions - blood pressure meds, and the like.
                      I've paid less than deductible a couple of times recently. I'd say that when it happens, it's mostly "old" drugs that are off patent, and are easy to produce by the generic pharmas.

                      One of the occurrences was with Prednisone, which I found it was especially annoying because it came out to something like $3.21. Didn't want to charge an amount that small, and ended up with four pennies in my pocket.

                      The other incident I found ironic, because it was Oxycodone. Not only is it cheap, but it has a really high street value. No wonder the opioid resale market is so thriving.

                      But I agree, it would be an attractive scam. Paying less than your copay usually comes as a surprise.

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                      • #761
                        Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

                        Who in the hell picks Iran for their championships?

                        http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/sp...smtyp=cur&_r=0

                        Nazi Paikidze-Barnes, a United States women’s chess champion, has said that she will boycott next year’s world championship in Iran because religious law would require her to wear a hijab.
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                        • #762
                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          Who in the hell picks Iran for their championships?

                          http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/sp...smtyp=cur&_r=0
                          Who picked Qatar for the World Cup?
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                          • #763
                            Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            Who picked Qatar for the World Cup?
                            I would probably be ok going to Qatar. If you're an American and you travel to Iran you're risking your freedom and your life.
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                            • #764
                              Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

                              Who the hell names their kid Nazi?
                              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                              -aparch

                              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                              -INCH

                              Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                              -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                              • #765
                                Re: Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

                                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                Who the hell names their kid Nazi?
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                                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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