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  • #331
    Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Whoops I posted that in the prez thread.
    *** is going on?? They wanted to crucify Hillary over emails and they're dismantling this so the Donald can run rampant?
    Nope, they just want to crucify America. After Trump won the nomination, it was the goal the whole time.

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    • #332
      Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

      I don't even know how to react anymore. this is just gross.
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      • #333
        Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

        Originally posted by MaizeRage View Post
        This seems fine: http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us...smtyp=cur&_r=0
        This is one of those partisan overreaches that causes the political pendulum to swing from left to right and back again.

        TL;DR: They're political fools.
        "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

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        • #334
          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
          This is one of those partisan overreaches that causes the political pendulum to swing from left to right and back again.

          TL;DR: They're political fools.
          Except they're doing it two years before the next election, and 95% of the population will not remember this past next week.

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          • #335
            Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

            Originally posted by unofan View Post
            Except they're doing it two years before the next election, and 95% of the population will not remember this past next week.
            This is different. This is one of those things that will come out during both the mid-term and 2020 election cycles. They're clearly intending on providing cover for [insert opponent's name here]. They will be railed for this, and they should be railed for this.
            "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

            "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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            • #336
              Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
              This is different. This is one of those things that will come out during both the mid-term and 2020 election cycles. They're clearly intending on providing cover for [insert opponent's name here]. They will be railed for this, and they should be railed for this.
              I hope so, but after this election I'm losing my religion as far as trusting the electorate goes.
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              • #337
                Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                Irony is dead.
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                • #338
                  Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  I hope so, but after this election I'm losing my religion as far as trusting the electorate goes.
                  LOL. Anyone who thinks that the electorate is going to care about any of this is kidding themselves. The only reason it mattered for Clinton is because she was a Democrat and a woman. Otherwise it would have been meaningless.
                  **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                  Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                  Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                  • #339
                    Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                    LOL. Anyone who thinks that the electorate is going to care about any of this is kidding themselves. The only reason it mattered for Clinton is because she was a Democrat and a woman. Otherwise it would have been meaningless.
                    Sincere question: are you old enough to remember 1976? I just barely remember that there was a big wave of "we need honesty" after Nixon. We've already got "drain the swamp," and the swamp is now the proud possession of the GOP. If they are just overtly, baldly corrupt as Dick and Spiro, I think you'll see a big reaction against them, particularly if the Democratic nominee is a Jimmy Carter type who runs as Jefferson Smith.
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                    • #340
                      Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Sincere question: are you old enough to remember 1976? I just barely remember that there was a big wave of "we need honesty" after Nixon. We've already got "drain the swamp," and the swamp is now the proud possession of the GOP. If they are just overtly, baldly corrupt as Dick and Spiro, I think you'll see a big reaction against them, particularly if the Democratic nominee is a Jimmy Carter type who runs as Jefferson Smith.
                      Barely. I think the dynamic is much different now. I'm willing to bet that there is no Democratic wave over the next 4 years.
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                      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                      • #341
                        Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        Barely. I think the dynamic is much different now. I'm willing to bet that there is no Democratic wave over the next 4 years.
                        Tomorrow there will be no sunrise across the contiguous USA either. Because there never is.
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                        • #342
                          Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                          Last call! Last call!! Last call for the 114th Congress!
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                          • #343
                            Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                            Barely. I think the dynamic is much different now. I'm willing to bet that there is no Democratic wave over the next 4 years.
                            I think the dynamic is different too -- there are fewer undecideds and fewer moderates. The result is bigger ideological swings. But incumbency may be poison in a highly partisan environment, since the incumbent becomes identified with the problems the country faces and the problems are worse because the government is dysfunctional because of the highly partisan environment. The way to gain power is to lose it and vice versa.

                            By 2020 we will not have had a one term presidency in 28 years. Trump will never be more popular than the second before he takes office -- after that he becomes the insider everybody is running against. The GOP policies will start to pinch and people who could not grasp the consequences of losing health care or environmental protection when they were abstractions won't need to use their imagination. And the Democrats just relearned the lesson of not gifting the nomination to the good soldier with the longest service time.

                            I can see a big wave coming -- not so much a wave of Democratic support, but of revulsion against the Versailles presidency and its Republican sycophants.
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                            • #344
                              Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              Irony is dead.
                              Question from someone who took civics too long ago: Is this a procedural issue or does this require a signature from POTUS?
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                              • #345
                                Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                                Originally posted by busterman62 View Post
                                Question from someone who took civics too long ago: Is this a procedural issue or does this require a signature from POTUS?
                                Not an easy answer. Depends if this office is statutory. Some (like committees) are simply creations of the Congress for conducting its own business and can be declared or abolished by the will of the majority. Others are established by statute and have to go through the whole legislative process.

                                I don't know what the distinction is and whether it itself is governed by "meta-rules," other than obviously Congress can't abolish an executive agency on its own.

                                Here is background on this office, why it was created and by analogy why the Republicans want it abolished. The implication from the article is that this office is under the jurisdiction of the House Rules Committee which means the president has doodly-squat to say about it.
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