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Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!
Why? This bill has major constitutional issues with the way it's worded today.
Why? This bill has major constitutional issues with the way it's worded today.
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Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!
Then fix the list or get rid of it.Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
EDIT: it's also interesting that this has Constitutional issues but Guantanomo Bay doesn't.Last edited by ScoobyDoo; 06-23-2016, 09:27 AM.**NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.
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The list is sort-of ok. Terrorist watch lists are fine. As long as it doesn't violate due process.
When you start using it to deny citizens their rights, that's when it becomes a problem.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezOriginally posted by bigblue_dlHe's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North WestOriginally posted by KeplerComment
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The Congress could abolish the Patriot Act.Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
Put the word."patriot" or "child(ren)" in a bill's title and it's guaranteed to pass and be impossible to kill.CCT '77 & '78
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Oh stop it with the stupid concern trolling argument. Guantanamo has major issues as well.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezOriginally posted by bigblue_dlHe's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North WestOriginally posted by KeplerComment
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It already does that to an extent. You have the right to travel freely among the states, even if it's not explicitly enumerated. The no fly list at least tangentially curbs that right (the only reason it's not a direct impact is there's no right to fly between states).Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
While the second amendment is explicit (if you ignore the militia clause, as the present interpretation does) , it is not unlimited no matter what its most ardent defenders tell you.
So while there may be constitutional questions, they're not inherently insurmountable.Comment
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I'm just saying if were going to give everyone due process then give everyone due process. We haven't even declared War. It's just beyond fascinating how we spend all our time in Congress skirting the laws we do have that we can't pass anything that applies common sense to the laws we already have.Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post**NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.
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I don't disagree with any of that. So like I said, add in a due process fix and I'm more ok with it based on what I've seen so far.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezOriginally posted by bigblue_dlHe's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North WestOriginally posted by KeplerComment
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I'm just amused that the GOP finally discovered civil liberties.
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Only when it circles around number two. Any other number they have room to move.Originally posted by Kepler View PostI'm just amused that the GOP finally discovered civil liberties.**NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.
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They're always known about it. Just very selectively. About as selective as the ACLU.Originally posted by Kepler View PostI'm just amused that the GOP finally discovered civil liberties.Comment
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I love the pearl-clutching about process the House Republicans are doing about the sit in. Maybe you guys should look over at the Senate where your party is refusing to consider a SCOTUS nominee for naked partisan reasons. Well that plus you a-holes shut down the government and threatened to default on the debt because your feewies were hurt that the president was black.
But more important than the right's poutrage is what this says about the Democratic party. Remember when we lost all those blue dogs and everybody said it was terrible? Turns out it's not terrible. The Democratic caucus is getting more liberal because the party voters are more liberal. Flushing the Dixiecrats down the toilet did cost us the presidency in the 80s and the Congress in the 90s and 00s, but now that the price is paid we have a much better party, united behind much better policy preferences.
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So we have a list (or two) of people that we don't want getting onto airplanes because they might blow up the plane.Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
Forget all the other stuff; we are letting those folks walk around?
How about we find a charge (if there's one really there) and go all Sixth Amendment on the person.
Doesn't that solve all the problems?The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.
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How about no list at all? Oh, ****ing wait, that's what the Democrats wanted in the first place. Never mind.Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post**NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.
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I'm not a big fan of lists, especially those that may not fare so well if the Sixth Amendment was to be pressed against them.Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View PostThe preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.
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