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  • #31
    Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Strike down the bands!!

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...k-house-224450
    They just want to divert the money to the defense contractors that are lining their campaign coffers. No money will actually be saved here.

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    • #32
      Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

      It's going to have to be a pretty big wave.

      Republicans’ astounding state legislative gains in the 2010 midterms — the year before the decennial redistricting cycle — allowed them to redraw four times as many congressional districts as Democrats in 2011 and 2012, stretching their geographical edge even further. As a result, in 2012, Democrats won 51 percent of all major-party votes cast for House candidates but just 47 percent of all seats. In 2014, Democrats won 47 percent of all major-party votes but just 43 percent of the seats. Amazingly, just 16 of 247 House Republicans won their races by fewer than 10 percentage points.

      If Democrats’ seat share continues to lag their national vote share by about 4 percentage points in 2016, the party might need to win about 8 percent more votes than Republicans nationally just to reach the barest possible majority of 218 seats.
      That's not +8 in the presidency, it's +8 in Congressional voting. Congress typically oscillates between +/-4 points.
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      • #33
        Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

        Gotta love the NRA winning again. It's amazing. The poll numbers among NRA members were with the no fly no buy and extended background check legislation and IT STILL didn't pass.

        Like I've already stated. It's easier for me to buy a gun then it is for me to drive a car.
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        • #34
          Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
          Gotta love the NRA winning again. It's amazing. The poll numbers among NRA members were with the no fly no buy and extended background check legislation and IT STILL didn't pass.

          Like I've already stated. It's easier for me to buy a gun then it is for me to drive a car.
          Polls are one thing. Buying your congressmen is the important one.
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          • #35
            Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

            Originally posted by bronconick View Post
            Polls are one thing. Buying your congressmen is the important one.
            They're supposed to represent us. I guess that's too much to ask. At least Franken and Klobuchar try to do that. I think they fail on healthcare but that's another issue entirely.
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            • #36
              Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
              They're supposed to represent us. I guess that's too much to ask. At least Franken and Klobuchar try to do that. I think they fail on healthcare but that's another issue entirely.
              Hey, there are sound bites out there of Klobuchar informing us that a woman behind the wheel of a car is as dangerous as a gun. So who's she really protecting while not trying to revoke women's driving privileges?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                Hey, there are sound bites out there of Klobuchar informing us that a woman behind the wheel of a car is as dangerous as a gun. So who's she really protecting while not trying to revoke women's driving privileges?
                on a cell phone and applying makeup while driving IS a dangerous practice. Totally hands free driving!
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                • #38
                  Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                  If you think your job is hard, at least you aren't a sitting California Republican.

                  Now, if there is no governor’s race and the presidential race is a foregone conclusion (and don’t forget that Californians will know how most of the country voted long before their own polls close) and 64% of Republicans have no intentions of casting a vote in the Senate race, then the only reason most California Republicans will have to show up at the polls is to cast a vote for their U.S. Representative and some state and local races.
                  The CA delegation in the House is currently 40 D - 13 R. If Democrats really do turnout by 40 (!) more points than Republicans, a few of those 13 seats will come into play, most thankfully CA-49, where national disgrace Darryl Issa has just a 5-point lead on a no-name Iraqi vet rookie challenger who up 'til now hasn't even gotten a dollar from the DCCC, but who is about to become a grassroots cause.
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                  • #39
                    Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                    Good theater on the floor of the House. Won't accomplish much, but it will ignite the base and get great ink in the papers.

                    Such is our national legislature. The ghosts of Adams, Rayburn, Clay, Webster, McCormack and O'Neill must be weeping.
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                    • #40
                      Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      Good theater on the floor of the House. Won't accomplish much, but it will ignite the base and get great ink in the papers.

                      Such is our national legislature. The ghosts of Adams, Rayburn, Clay, Webster, McCormack and O'Neill must be weeping.
                      We'll never see it. Ryan shut off the cameras in fine Putinesque fashion.

                      Headless body in topless bar has a nice cover this morning.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        Good theater on the floor of the House. Won't accomplish much, but it will ignite the base and get great ink in the papers.

                        Such is our national legislature. The ghosts of Adams, Rayburn, Clay, Webster, McCormack and O'Neill must be weeping.
                        I was just reading that the GOP staged a similar protest on the House floor in 2008. What was their "we won't take it anymore" issue, you ask? DRILL BABY DRILL!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          We'll never see it. Ryan shut off the cameras in fine Putinesque fashion.

                          Headless body in topless bar has a nice cover this morning.
                          CNN showed pictures via Periscope.

                          So Occupy tactics are now being used by our legislators. Sad day. I can't believe that I will witness the destruction of the Constitutional USA in my lifetime. Now it will be government by Mob.

                          Our Mel Brooks jokes from.a few days ago look prophetic.
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                          • #43
                            Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                            Saw the most entertaining segment on Morning Joe ever. Let's see if I can get this right.

                            So, we have two lists. A no fly list and a terror watch list. Both of these lists came from the Patriot Act originally I believe. A radio program that I admire very much was ripping the Democrats for the no fly no buy rule they want to pass because the Democrats voted against these lists in the first place. But, here's the problem with that.

                            We have the lists. The lists are law. And apparently they're not going away. So, the question is WHY would the Republicans care about extending the lists to Gun Control? Well. Due process. They think that the lists are flawed and take away law abiding citizens right to buy a gun under the 2nd Amendment.

                            Here comes Joe this morning on Morning Joe interviewing Tom Cole from Oklahoma. He sets it up by reminding everyone that the Republicans are going against 80% of Americans on the no fly no buy and extended background check legislation. Tom Cole gives the usual argument how those laws would have done nothing to prevent Orlando, etc.

                            Joe changes the argument. Asked Cole about the Lists and why we wouldn't want to prevent people from buying guns who are on the list. As Joe put it, "we're trying to prevent the next terrorist attack on American soil" (I paraphrased a bit). Tom Cole says, "The list is flawed". Joe grabs the sledgehammer and drives Cole into the ground.

                            "Then why don't you fix the list?" "Isn't that your job?"

                            And so again here is where government is screwed up and large and small are NEVER part of the equation. Small government would be NO LIST or an EFFECTIVE LIST. Instead we have two lists and the lists are flawed and (apparently) there is no way to get off the list (thus the due process) argument. So, what the discussion should be at this point isn't guns, cause sorry but if your on the list you shouldn't be buying them, but the discussion should be what are the lists, how do we manage the lists effectively, and should we have the lists in the first place. That's the smaller government argument.

                            So, the big question is WHY is the large government party closer (not buy much but still closer) to the small government answer than the small government party?

                            And here's the segment on Youtube.

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09sV4tSFEuA
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                            • #44
                              Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                              There was a comment on gawker's article bashing the Dems on this.

                              Something along the lines of, "Let's get this prohibition in place for those on the lists, however, if someone wants to buy a gun and they're on the list, the government has 30 days to charge them with a crime."

                              I'd be ok with that if they extended it to 60 or even 90 days.
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                              • #45
                                Re: The 114th Congress: Two More Years!

                                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                                There was a comment on gawker's article bashing the Dems on this.

                                Something along the lines of, "Let's get this prohibition in place for those on the lists, however, if someone wants to buy a gun and they're on the list, the government has 30 days to charge them with a crime."

                                I'd be ok with that if they extended it to 60 or even 90 days.
                                Be careful about hammering the Democrats too much on this. Courts are backed up all over the place and ever since Obama took office the Congress hasn't been filling the vacancies.
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                                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
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