Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

[Kepler]

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Hope the Mrs. doesn't read that.

Dr. Mrs. is a card-carrying islander.

[FlagDUDE08]

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The girls are cute, anyway. And an entire island of redheads is my idea of heaven.

Hope the Mrs. doesn't read that.

[rufus]

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He's missing a big opportunity though. A special Celebrity Apprentice series, winner gets to be VP.

[Rover]

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Brutal view of Sanders...

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...m-the-very-top

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...bernie-sanders

[Kepler]

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Not much bread, but a whole lot of circus.

Indeed, Trump is viewing the convention as a showcase for the brand he built in entertainment over three decades and then melded with a political persona developed over the last year. It’s an opportunity to fill a vacuum created by longtime Republican standard-bearers, from Mitt Romney and John McCain to the Bush family who are opting not to attend, and to elevate a new coalition of conservatives and present a party refashioned, at least for the moment, in his own image.

And Trump plans to create news events too, not just line up speeches by up-and-coming members of the GOP. He’s toying with unveiling a running mate at the convention rather than before. He’s even considering whether to announce his would-be Cabinet.

“Announcing the vice presidential nominee before the convention is like announcing winner of ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ before the final show is on the air,” one Trump campaign source said. “This is one of the only opportunities to create tension and drama in the whole show. You better believe Mr. Trump understands that and is looking to maximize that.”

Whereas the vice presidential nominee has generally spoken on the third night of the convention and the presidential candidate has taken the stage on the fourth and final night, Trump is considering a scenario that puts him on stage, delivering remarks on all four nights, reaching millions of potential voters, and driving ratings, according to one source.

Full frontal nudity. And chimps.

[Kepler]

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Hey Rover and Kepler, need some funding? http://newsfrompolitics.com/2016/05/...ugees-america/

The girls are cute, anyway. And an entire island of redheads is my idea of heaven.

[FlagDUDE08]

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Hey Rover and Kepler, need some funding? http://newsfrompolitics.com/2016/05/...ugees-america/

[dxmnkd316]

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[Spartanforlife4]

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Sanders response regarding Nevada

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders on Tuesday issued the following statement:

“It is imperative that the Democratic leadership, both nationally and in the states, understand that the political world is changing and that millions of Americans are outraged at establishment politics and establishment economics. The people of this country want a government which represents all of us, not just the 1 percent, super PACs and wealthy campaign contributors.

“The Democratic Party has a choice. It can open its doors and welcome into the party people who are prepared to fight for real economic and social change – people who are willing to take on Wall Street, corporate greed and a fossil fuel industry which is destroying this planet. Or the party can choose to maintain its status quo structure, remain dependent on big-money campaign contributions and be a party with limited participation and limited energy.

“Within the last few days there have been a number of criticisms made against my campaign organization. Party leaders in Nevada, for example, claim that the Sanders campaign has a ‘penchant for violence.’ That is nonsense. Our campaign has held giant rallies all across this country, including in high-crime areas, and there have been zero reports of violence. Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals. But, when we speak of violence, I should add here that months ago, during the Nevada campaign, shots were fired into my campaign office in Nevada and apartment housing complex my campaign staff lived in was broken into and ransacked.

“If the Democratic Party is to be successful in November, it is imperative that all state parties treat our campaign supporters with fairness and the respect that they have earned. I am happy to say that has been the case at state conventions in Maine, Alaska, Colorado and Hawaii where good discussions were held and democratic decisions were reached. Unfortunately, that was not the case at the Nevada convention. At that convention the Democratic leadership used its power to prevent a fair and transparent process from taking place. Among other things:

The chair of the convention announced that the convention rules passed on voice vote, when the vote was a clear no-vote. At the very least, the Chair should have allowed for a headcount.
The chair allowed its Credentials Committee to en mass rule that 64 delegates were ineligible without offering an opportunity for 58 of them to be heard. That decision enabled the Clinton campaign to end up with a 30-vote majority.
The chair refused to acknowledge any motions made from the floor or allow votes on them.
The chair refused to accept any petitions for amendments to the rules that were properly submitted.

“These are on top of failures at the precinct and county conventions including trying to depose and then threaten with arrest the Clark County convention credentials chair because she was operating too fairly.”

[Kepler]

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I don't know...racism, anti New Deal, longing for mythical way things used to be...sounds kinda familiar.

Yeah, but he hated the proles, loathed populism, and gleefully danced on William Jennings Bryan's grave. He'd have shivved Pat Buchanan right in the chasuble.

[Rover]

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Hardly. If Mencken would be anybody in this environment he'd be a cross between Camille Paglia and Jack Germond. How else to describe with what perfect prescience, in 1920, he could predict Trump:

I don't know...racism, anti New Deal, longing for mythical way things used to be...sounds kinda familiar.

[Rover]

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Did one of them kill Vince Foster?

Technically Bill just ordered that. He didn't pull the trigger (I think that was Pat Robertson's take IIRC).

He may have been driving the car though when Buddy the Dog got iced before he could testify to the grand jury..

[mookie1995]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us...=top-news&_r=0

These are your heroes. Own it or disavow it. There's no in between.

Did one of them kill Vince Foster?

[mookie1995]

Hillary condemns the undemocratic behavior of Chairwoman Lang.

Better odds of Vince Foster walking through that door

[Kepler]

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He'd be Donald Trump essentially.

Hardly. If Mencken would be anybody in this environment he'd be a cross between Camille Paglia and Jack Germond. How else to describe with what perfect prescience, in 1920, he could predict Trump:

The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre—the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.