Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

[Kepler]

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ON THE COMEBACK TRAIL BABY!!!!

It would be funny if Sanders ended up with more popular votes than Trump! Right how he's about 1.5M behind with CA, NJ, and DC left to vote (9.4 vs 10.9). Hillary is crushing the field with 12.5M...

It wouldn't be funny if he wound up with more than Hillary, though.

In all honesty, we don't need that.

Comparisons between parties make no sense. The GOP began with 17 candidates. Obviously their winner will wind up with fewer total votes. By expected share of the pie relative to field size, Drumpf is the one who is crushing it, unfortunately.

[Rover]

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It wouldn't be funny if he wound up with more than Hillary, though.

In all honesty, we don't need that.

Comparisons between parties make no sense. The GOP began with 17 candidates. Obviously their winner will wind up with fewer total votes. By expected share of the pie relative to field size, Drumpf is the one who is crushing it, unfortunately.

Oh its just for fun Kep and not any serious analysis. You wouldn't throw it in Trump's face if Bernie won more votes than him?

Speaking of which, THIS is the man who's supposed to be a 50/50 bet for the Presidency?

https://politicalwire.com/2016/05/11...cain-comments/

I appreciate the man's consistency, but is being consistent when mocking a POW's service really a good thing... :rollleyes:

[Kepler]

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Oh its just for fun Kep and not any serious analysis. You wouldn't throw it in Trump's face if Bernie won more votes than him?

Speaking of which, THIS is the man who's supposed to be a 50/50 bet for the Presidency?

https://politicalwire.com/2016/05/11...cain-comments/

I appreciate the man's consistency, but is being consistent when mocking a POW's service really a good thing... :rollleyes:

It's interesting to watch the Noise Machine aircraft carrier slowly turn 180 degrees. Freep's Cruz purge was just the beginning. Anybody with the temerity to point out that Drumpf has no stable conservative positions and indeed may have no stable positions at all, given that he changes them every day, is getting the boot from about 75% of GOP water carrier sites and is being accorded full Saint Joan martyrdom by the rest. And all of this is happening against the backdrop of the conservative literati finally figuring out that the GOP base doesn't give a crap about small government or state's rights or Jefferson's "Notes on the State of Virginia" or the Anti-Federalists or Hayek or Jekyll Island or Uncle Milty & Freshwater Economics and instead will blindly follow any hack who promises he'll keep out the Mesicans and teach the womenfolk their place.

[joecct]

It's interesting to watch the Noise Machine aircraft carrier slowly turn 180 degrees. Freep's Cruz purge was just the beginning. Anybody with the temerity to point out that Drumpf has no stable conservative positions and indeed may have no stable positions at all, given that he changes them every day, is getting the boot from about 75% of GOP water carrier sites and is being accorded full Saint Joan martyrdom by the rest. And all of this is happening against the backdrop of the conservative literati finally figuring out that the GOP base doesn't give a crap about small government or state's rights or Jefferson's "Notes on the State of Virginia" or the Anti-Federalists or Hayek or Jekyll Island or Uncle Milty & Freshwater Economics and instead will blindly follow any hack who promises he'll keep out the Mesicans and teach the womenfolk their place.

Cynical. If the masses were as you said, Jeb! would have been the nominee. However the masses have woken up to the fact that the establishment has been blowing smoke up their (our) wazoos for the past 20 years+. The masses are angry and we are where we currently are because of it.

[Kepler]

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Cynical. If the masses were as you said, Jeb! would have been the nominee.

Not at all. Jeb! said all the wrong things. Remember border jumping as "an act of love"? Christ on a poptart, that was NOT what the fine people of Buck Snort, Arkansas wanted to hear.

[Rover]

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Beyond his war record, its tough to have an iota of respect for McCain anymore. Wouldn't someone who made light of your capture and 7 year ordeal during war become a blood enemy, not someone you side with due to slavish devotion to a political party? He already pulled this once by sucking up to GWB after a whispering campaign about his sanity and the paternity of his adopted daughter, so I guess we shouldn't be too surprised.

Beyond that though, its amusing and sad that the political press won't call the GOP out for what it is. A 100% white privilege party. Might as well nominate PW Botha instead of Donald Trump. Maybe it wasn't always that way, but it sure as hell is now.

[Kepler]

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A 100% white privilege party.

In the same vein...

[rufus]

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Not at all. Jeb! said all the wrong things. Remember border jumping as "an act of love"? Christ on a poptart, that was NOT what the fine people of Buck Snort, Arkansas wanted to hear.

Besides, Jeb's married to one of them. Dark, swarthy people. with funny accents. Not one of "us".

[unofan]

Bern only 290 delegates behind hilly..... Getting testy out there

"Only" in this case being like saying the Cubs have only gone a century without a title.

[French Rage]

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Bern only 290 delegates behind hilly..... Getting testy out there

Only 290...out of 900-something. So he only needs 65% of the remaining votes. Oh yeah and Hillary is leading CA with its 400-something delegates. So he only needs like 90% of the votes in every other state (that number may not be accurate, but you get my point).

[mookie1995]

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"Only" in this case being like saying the Cubs have only gone a century without a title.

but, there are ~600 super delegates, so if they all fall for bern that will put him over the top!!

no?

[Kepler]

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but, there are ~600 super delegates, so if they all fall for bern that will put him over the top!!

no?

Yes, but no. Bernie stands for genuine democracy. Super delegates are cringe-worthily anti-democratic. He can't win that way and remain him.

[unofan]

Yes, but no. Bernie stands for genuine democracy. Super delegates are cringe-worthily anti-democratic. He can't win that way and remain him.

More to the point, there's no way the super delegates swarm to him if he doesn't win the pledged delegate race.

[Kepler]

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More to the point, there's no way the super delegates swarm to him if he doesn't win the pledged delegate race.

They could if late in the game something really awful happened with Hillary to make her unelectable but she refused to stand down.

[mookie1995]

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More to the point, there's no way the super delegates swarm to him if he doesn't win the pledged delegate race.

but?!?! rover tells us every day that the super delegates are in hilly's back pocket. and have been from day 1 well before the pledged race was decided.

heck, kep has visible whip marks