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  • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

    Originally posted by BassAle View Post
    I still don't understand how anyone could think Bush was a better choice than Gore, and then after Iraq I'm even more confused how someone could pull the lever for that moron vs Kerry.
    If intellect was the prime driver of politics we wouldn't have had a Republican president since Nixon.

    On the other hand: how'd that work out?

    People look for all sorts of characteristics in a president. Intelligence is a low priority, if one at all. It's not that big a surprise: C students don't like A students in high school either.
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    • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
      We had an election during a civil war.
      What did Twitter feel about that?
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      • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        If intellect was the prime driver of politics we wouldn't have had a Republican president since Nixon.

        On the other hand: how'd that work out?

        People look for all sorts of characteristics in a president. Intelligence is a low priority, if one at all. It's not that big a surprise: C students don't like A students in high school either.
        I thought I already explained this to you nitwits.
        And finally, if you base your view of President Bush’s intellect on a public image and caricature shaped by late night comedians, op-ed writers, TV pundits, and Twitter, is that a smart thing for you to do?
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        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          If intellect was the prime driver of politics we wouldn't have had a Republican president since Nixon.

          On the other hand: how'd that work out?

          People look for all sorts of characteristics in a president. Intelligence is a low priority, if one at all. It's not that big a surprise: C students don't like A students in high school either.
          Seems like someone reposts that condescending liberal know it all post every single day
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          • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

            Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
            Seems like someone reposts that condescending liberal know it all post every single day
            Must be an ivy league thing. They whine about that sort of thing all the time; it's not just Kepler.

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            • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
              Seems like someone reposts that condescending liberal know it all post every single day
              No, no, no. This was scorn, not condescension. With condescension you try to give the appearance of caring how you're received.
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              • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

                Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                Seems like someone reposts that condescending liberal know it all post every single day
                That's why I'm here to counterbalance that attitude.
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                • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

                  Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                  I still don't understand how anyone could think Bush was a better choice than Gore, and then after Iraq I'm even more confused how someone could pull the lever for that moron vs Kerry.
                  When it comes to Gore, he came off as smarmy. Bush hadn't yet proved himself to be a bad President, and some people might've thought they were getting his father's clone in office.

                  As for Kerry, Iraq hadn't yet proven to be a complete sh**show, and so many people were still very gung ho on rooting out terrorism and Islamic everything, that at that point, they overlooked Bush's treatment of domestic issues, which still hadn't hit their trough. The worst things we remember about Bush's domestic policies didn't happen until after 2004. And Kerry simply wasn't that impressive of a candidate.
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                  • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

                    Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                    I just read through a **** storm of "Bernie or Bust" "Never Hillary" idiots posting on an NPR article about Bernie shedding campaign staff. They were also outraged that NPR would even run the article and claimed it was showing their "anti Bernie bias". I'm seriously worried about these idiots. Lots of them seemed to think there was some kind of conspiracy against Bernie, and NPR was in on it. I'm a Bernie fan, but I know he isn't going to be the nominee and I sure as hell am going to vote for Hillary in the general.
                    Those idiots are a very small minority and even they will end up voting.

                    What state is Drumpf going to win that Obama won?
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                    • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      Voters didn't fear Gore either. Gore lost because there was too much level pulling for 2000's Bernie.
                      Gore lost because the people in his home state didnt even vote for him. I love how people make all these excuses for Gore and forget he wasnt nearly the candidate they thought he was. It is never actually his fault that he ran a campaign that lost to Dubya...
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                      • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        It's relevant because the Orcs never deviate. They always vote the ticket up and down. Liberals don't do that. Never have. Thus it is my opinion that Hillary hatred will outweigh Trump hatred in the voting booth by a significant margin.

                        That most likely will be massively offset by demographics. The Supreme Court in my opinion is a wash on bothsides cause it will bring out both bases.
                        You have yet to be right about any thing in this election...in fact you havent even been close on one of your grand predictions. With your track record we dont need to run the election Hillary has already won in a landslide
                        "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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                        • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

                          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                          When it comes to Gore, he came off as smarmy. Bush hadn't yet proved himself to be a bad President, and some people might've thought they were getting his father's clone in office.

                          As for Kerry, Iraq hadn't yet proven to be a complete sh**show, and so many people were still very gung ho on rooting out terrorism and Islamic everything, that at that point, they overlooked Bush's treatment of domestic issues, which still hadn't hit their trough. The worst things we remember about Bush's domestic policies didn't happen until after 2004. And Kerry simply wasn't that impressive of a candidate.
                          Kerry had no spine that was his big problem.
                          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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                          • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                            What state is Drumpf going to win that Obama won?
                            I'm not even sure he'll carry half the states Romney did...

                            We are not in any danger of a Donald Trump presidency...
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                            • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              When it comes to Gore, he came off as smarmy. Bush hadn't yet proved himself to be a bad President, and some people might've thought they were getting his father's clone in office.
                              Bull-****ing-****. Anyone with a brain knew what they were getting with W and it was exactly what we got. Hell, The Onion predicted the Iraq War the day he was inaugurated. Any narrative white-washing of "we just didn't know" is people being embarrassed they voted wrong and ****ed our country.
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                              • Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

                                Originally posted by MaizeRage View Post
                                Bull-****ing-****. Anyone with a brain knew what they were getting with W and it was exactly what we got. Hell, The Onion predicted the Iraq War the day he was inaugurated. Any narrative white-washing of "we just didn't know" is people being embarrassed they voted wrong and ****ed our country.
                                I agree that it was a tragic mistake to elect W, one for which we are still paying a price, but a lot of Dems supported that invasion. Very few stood up to the idiots playing the patriot card.

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