Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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I just don't get how Drumpf is gaining momentum.

Some primary voters are pure scum.

[mookie1995]

Wait, the plan is to cancel the election? Hahahahahaha. Good luck with that. The elections have been held without fail in November since 1788. Prior to that, presidential elections were in December.

What if there is a massive terror attack day before?


Like perhaps 2 tall bldgs in a major city topple and a gov structure in DC?

Maybe stuff gets delayed..... Just for a bit for security reasons.

[joecct]

What if there is a massive terror attack day before?

The Attack of the Zombie Arkansas Bimbos?

Like perhaps 2 tall bldgs in a major city topple and a gov structure in DC?

That's been done. Need something new. Biological or nuclear would do it. Or lets try assassination of the SCOTUS.

Maybe stuff gets delayed..... Just for a bit for security reasons.

I still think elections for national office should be on July 4 and the festivities take place in September.

[mookie1995]

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Mookie was obviously alluding to another inside job where the govment would then control status quo

[Rover]

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As Kep stated, there's no point in going through the trouble of screwing Trump to end up with Cruz. You'd have to bone them both, and in doing so you just told 15M of the most loyal party voters that their opinions are worthless, but don't take it too hard because we need you in November! Since Goopers only draw about 60M votes in Presidential contests (2004, 2008, 2012), that's a whopping 25% of your base that you've PO'd. That just ain't gonna fly.

[Rover]

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Also, as I suspected Latino voter registration is surging:

http://thehill.com/latino/277824-his...al-map-for-gop

Methinks they're not signing up to vote Trump in November!

[ScoobyDoo]

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Cruz has the second most votes for the GOP.

When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.

“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a ***** in my life.”

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2016/04...ime-in-office/

[geezer]

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The only thing that truly frightens me about the forthcoming Hillary "presidency" is the prospect of hearing that voice for years to come. It's almost exactly like the sound of a long rusty steel nail being slowly and relentlessly pulled by a heavy crowbar from the living femur of an adolescent Benedictine monk who has very enthusiastically jettisoned his vows of silence.

[Kepler]

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As Kep stated, there's no point in going through the trouble of screwing Trump to end up with Cruz. You'd have to bone them both, and in doing so you just told 15M of the most loyal party voters that their opinions are worthless, but don't take it too hard because we need you in November! Since Goopers only draw about 60M votes in Presidential contests (2004, 2008, 2012), that's a whopping 25% of your base that you've PO'd. That just ain't gonna fly.

Are you saying then that they will just let it be and hope for the best?

It isn't as if they have a sure fire winner being blocked by those two.

[St. Clown]

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Hate to say it, but compared to Fiorina, Trump is a genius in the boardroom. This is an enormous mistake for Cruz. Even if the RNC can still manage to somehow pull off the Cleveland Screwjob and get him the nomination, he may have just Palined away his slim chances at the White House.

Trump's Cleveland Steamer?

[bronconick]

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What if there is a massive terror attack day before?


Like perhaps 2 tall bldgs in a major city topple and a gov structure in DC?

Maybe stuff gets delayed..... Just for a bit for security reasons.

We had an election during a civil war.

[ScoobyDoo]

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The only thing that truly frightens me about the forthcoming Hillary "presidency" is the prospect of hearing that voice for years to come. It's almost exactly like the sound of a long rusty steel nail being slowly and relentlessly pulled by a heavy crowbar from the living femur of an adolescent Benedictine monk who has very enthusiastically jettisoned his vows of silence.

She's the most likely now. But never underestimate her and her parties ability to screw things up.

[Rover]

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Are you saying then that they will just let it be and hope for the best?

It isn't as if they have a sure fire winner being blocked by those two.

YES! Only thing to do is back Trump at this point and let it ride. It would be unprecedented in the modern political era to screw a candidate over who's as close to clinching a majority of delegates as he is. And not going with the person who finished 2nd. Maybe the Dems in '68? That was also an extraordinary circumstance since one of the leading candidates was killed shortly before the convention.

[Kepler]

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We had an election during a civil war.

And we have a sitting president who recognizes how important that continuity is.

Probability of events in the US before 2050:

Woman president: 95%
Cubs in the World Series: 67%
Terrorist attack using nukes: 50%
Default: 5%
Postponement of a general election: 1%

[Spartanforlife4]

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That's a pretty high probability for the Cubs there...