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  • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    if he was a producer and took steps to make set less safe, then sure get him for that.

    when you have armorer on set and someone who’s job it is to handle guns, I’m puzzled as to why the actor gets charged
    It's not just him being a producer. That means nothing since anyone can negotiate a producer credit in their contract if their name is big enough. They'd have to prove that Baldwin had a hand in making decisions which made the set less safe and led to the incident, which if he did, then like you said by all means let him fry. But on the surface, this smells of an overly ambitious prosecutor looking to score points with rubes who are mad at "Hollyweird libruls" for making fun of Dump.

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    • Even if it were due to him being producer, wouldn't that be more of a civil suit than criminal?

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      • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
        But on the surface, this smells of an overly ambitious prosecutor looking to score points with rubes who are mad at "Hollyweird libruls" for making fun of Dump.
        This makes literally no sense. She is in a state that just re-elected a Democrat as Governor. It has two Democrats in the Senate, and all three members of the House elected this year are Democrats.

        The District Attorney herself is a Democrat, and is in a county that went something like 75% for Democrats, a county in a State that went for Biden by double digit margins.

        I'm no political expert, but going after voters who are full gun-toting right wing rubes in New Mexico seems like sort of an odd choice.

        I have no idea as to her reasons for charging Baldwin, but I would think it more likely that she is appealing to anti-gun voters than voters upset at Baldwin for mocking Trump
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        • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

          This makes literally no sense. She is in a state that just re-elected a Democrat as Governor. It has two Democrats in the Senate, and all three members of the House elected this year are Democrats.

          The District Attorney herself is a Democrat, and is in a county that went something like 75% for Democrats, a county in a State that went for Biden by double digit margins.

          I'm no political expert, but going after voters who are full gun-toting right wing rubes in New Mexico seems like sort of an odd choice.

          I have no idea as to her reasons for charging Baldwin, but I would think it more likely that she is appealing to anti-gun voters than voters upset at Baldwin for mocking Trump
          All that is beside the point. District Attorneys inhabit the same derpy world as RWNJ anchors and pundits. They love to project that tough on crime hyperidiocy. It's right wing virtue signaling. Lofo voters elect that kind of crap for some reason, even in Dem states. And it dovetails perfectly with Echo Chamber messaging.

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          • School shooting in Des Moines

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            • 4 dead in shooting in Half Moon Bay, CA.

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                • I don’t know, with the facts we know right now, I feel like I have to side with Hovey on this one. By all accounts, Baldwin is an elitist f-cking a—hole, but that’s not why he’s being charged. I don’t think there’s enough to convict him, but I don’t think that’s what we’re “arguing” here.

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                  • I was stunned that he was being charged. Civilly, sure, almost certainly liable. But the criminal aspect is very tenuous. They pay armorers to understand these things. Obviously that doesn't absolve them completely, but again, that's more civil IMO.

                    Unless it was Alec Baldwin who brought the live ammunition to the range. Then I think the case is less murky.
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                    • Originally posted by psych View Post
                      I don’t know, with the facts we know right now, I feel like I have to side with Hovey on this one. By all accounts, Baldwin is an elitist f-cking a—hole, but that’s not why he’s being charged. I don’t think there’s enough to convict him, but I don’t think that’s what we’re “arguing” here.
                      The argument is it's "sticking it to them libs, hurr har."
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                      • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                        Unless it was Alec Baldwin who brought the live ammunition to the range. Then I think the case is less murky.
                        Yes, then they would have a case of whatever criminal negligence is for a person not an entity.

                        I just assumed they were prosecuting Baldwin in his capacity as responsible for the film and thus its process and safety. If it's prosecuting him for pulling the trigger that's just wildly, hilariously derp fan service by the DA, unless like you said he brought the bullet. In that event, fine, send him to the gray bar hotel. He'll be running the place in a week.
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                        • Wow, we talk about Baldwin when there's one dead mostly by a massive mistake, and one post about another school shooting in Des Moines- but since only two people died, it's not news.

                          Hard to bash the mainstream media when people who are already wanting gun control brush over another school shooting.

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                            • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                              School shooting in Des Moines
                              Did you miss this post? Two students dead, at a school....

                              Maybe it was buried because it was gang violence? Dunno. But yet another shooting at a school.

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                              • Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                                4 dead in shooting in Half Moon Bay, CA.
                                And this one is now 7 dead. Thanks to our society- shooting is the first step in conflict resolution.

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