Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang

[LynahFan]

Wrong thread

[Slap Shot]

Wow. I don't think I've ever heard of a murder in houghton.

I don't think I've ever heard of anything in Houghton.

[dxmnkd316]

Wow. I don't think I've ever heard of a murder in houghton.

[aparch]

One dead, one in custody in remote UP town.
https://www.mininggazette.com/uncate...W17LbXaYiLy7Z8

[Drew S.]

Just think how horrible it would have been if he didn’t have a gun at all? Those criminals would have gotten his CAR! I mean, it’s totally worth getting shot in both legs to save your car.

I’ve been held up at gun point while unarmed. Cooperated fully and went on with my life. Big friggin deal. You may ask, “What if the crook had been in a state of mind to hurt me even though I cooperated?” Well, in that case, I would’ve been shot whether or not I had a gun.

So exactly what good does a gun do again?

How do you know they only wanted his car? I don’t get why Chicago lets these groups operate.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Everyone should just have ARs with many extra magazines so we can blow everything away

Jesus ****ing Christ

[LynahFan]

This is a perfect example why the 10 round limit is ridiculous https://cwbchicago.com/2023/11/chica...led-carry.html

what the hell is going on out there?

Just think how horrible it would have been if he didn’t have a gun at all? Those criminals would have gotten his CAR! I mean, it’s totally worth getting shot in both legs to save your car.

I’ve been held up at gun point while unarmed. Cooperated fully and went on with my life. Big friggin deal. You may ask, “What if the crook had been in a state of mind to hurt me even though I cooperated?” Well, in that case, I would’ve been shot whether or not I had a gun.

So exactly what good does a gun do again?

[Drew S.]

This is a perfect example why the 10 round limit is ridiculous https://cwbchicago.com/2023/11/chica...led-carry.html

what the hell is going on out there?

[Kepler]

Culpeper gonna Culpeper.

I have friends from Orange. For them, Culpeper is the big city.

[French Rage]

When they point left....

Culpeper gonna Culpeper.

[dxmnkd316]

I figured. I just assumed it was roughly equivalent to GDP/cap.

[WisconsinWildcard]

What is that? GDP/capita roughly? Seems about right for cold calculation of a human life.

Looks like we could probably bump that up to $75k

In the literature, the most often number used to quantify 1 Quality Life Year is ~$50,000. I agree it is quite the cold calculation, and I certainly do not participate in that type of research personally, but it is what it is. New treatments often use this a benchmark to determine if an intervention is "cost effective." As a clinician, I wish the considerations were considered on the FDA/drug company end, but the way it is now, we get these super expensive medications approved and then basically have to prescribe them since they are the only treatment for a largely untreatable condition.

[Slap Shot]

When they point left....

A Virginia sheriff faces bribery charges for accepting tens of thousands of dollars in exchange for making people auxiliary deputies and helping them access guns. He is running for reelection on Tuesday.

[walrus]

Well, of course.

The Army wouldn't let him handle weapons several months before the incident took place. The Sagadahoc Sheriffs dept was tasked with serving him but never found him several months before also. Cashiers at a Circle K said he was regular at the Freeport store. His family was calling Authorities before the incident about his state of mind. Lots of dropped balls.

[psych]

Again, you misrepresent what my position is. I don't object to these "gun control" laws the feds and some states have passed. It's just that I don't believe they are gun control laws.

Does it matter what they're called more than the end result they achieve, which is fewer people dying? You yourself said "one life saved is worth it." Rename them "Human Lives Saved" laws, if it suits you. Point is, the half-measures work more than no measures at all, which is the standard end result in America. Waiting for "full loaf" is the same as "doing nothing", which is, indeed, what you are saying.

When you settle for watered down legislation that will have no impact, you don't solve the problem. It's like spraying Febreze on dirty laundry.

No sir. You said "if one live is saved, they're worth it." You don't get to turn around and say "no impact." Well, you can, but you look silly. Small impact is better than no impact. Lives saved, even one, is an impact. I'll take a half of a loaf over no loaf. This, again, is where we diverge. You're saying "full loaf or nothing at all", which, is, well, impractical and stupid, but you know that. And yes, spraying Febreze on dirty laundry is better than doing nothing at all.

Here is what annoys me. You blame me, or people like me, for this problem. But right now, in Minnesota, liberals control both houses of the state legislature and the governor's office. They passed a plethora of legislation that their constituents have demanded for decades.

I don't blame you, dear. You act obtuse as f-ck, but hey, we all have our drawbacks. Besides, I love the last sentence here. Nice to see real legislation passed by a real party that cares. Crazy they're able to get so much done with merely a one-seat majority in the state Senate. What an incredibly cohesive, collaborative party those DFLers must have in Minnesota. Love my home state. Good job, Minnesotan posters who voted for these people.

Yet, when it came to gun control, all your friends could come up with is a background check.

Sounds pretty good to me. Do I want more? Absolutely. 34D-33R Senate, who is the Democrats' weakest link on gun control? Looks like their breaking point was nothing beyond universal background checks. Half of a loaf, or no loaf? Half. Every. Time.

I have an idea for you. Stop blaming others. When you have control, use it to solve the problem as you deem best. Then we'll judge your efforts.

Blaming? Who am I blaming? I'm interested.

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