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  • French Rage
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
    Yeah, the FRB is saying that the economy is now healthy enough to handle higher interest rates, something it did not do while Pres. Obama was in office.
    Umm:

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/16/news...ike/index.html

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/14/news...ber/index.html

    And of course the third one, that took place a whopping 50 days into the current administration, had nothing to do with the previous 8 years.
    Last edited by French Rage; 06-14-2017, 03:58 PM.

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  • FlagDUDE08
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
    Yeah, the FRB is saying that the economy is now healthy enough to handle higher interest rates, something it did not do while Pres. Obama was in office.

    Oh the horror!

    On the down side, my house just dropped a marginal percent of its former base price.
    The Fed messes with interest rates whenever they want a bubble and crash. It has nothing to do with the health of the economy. If they wanted to create a healthy economy, they'd leave well enough alone.

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  • St. Clown
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    While the country is distracted with a shooter... https://www.infowars.com/fed-hikes-i...ing-inflation/

    We know what happens after FFR rises... give you a hint: it didn't change during the Obama terms...
    Yeah, the FRB is saying that the economy is now healthy enough to handle higher interest rates, something it did not do while Pres. Obama was in office.

    Oh the horror!

    On the down side, my house just dropped a marginal percent of its former base price.

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by French Rage View Post
    Lizard people?
    Sandy Hook was a hoax.

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  • French Rage
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    While the country is distracted with a shooter... https://www.infowars.com/fed-hikes-i...ing-inflation/

    We know what happens after FFR rises... give you a hint: it didn't change during the Obama terms...
    Lizard people?

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  • FlagDUDE08
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    While the country is distracted with a shooter... https://www.infowars.com/fed-hikes-i...ing-inflation/

    We know what happens after FFR rises... give you a hint: it didn't change during the Obama terms...

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Because in a one v one I vet person A v Person B. I'm not looking at the party per SE, though I will favor the GOP if close.

    Globally both parties suck. The leadership is a joke, they both are pawns of the oligarchs, and all they want is lifetime employment, free air travel and a nice consultant job when they are no longer in Congress. For all this, all they have to do is do what they're told.

    In the recent election you had the Komodo dragon vs. the Burmese python. You were getting a reptile no matter who you chose.
    Flawed logic. There was a huge difference the two.

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  • unofan
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    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Because in a one v one I vet person A v Person B. I'm not looking at the party per SE, though I will favor the GOP if close.

    Globally both parties suck. The leadership is a joke, they both are pawns of the oligarchs, and all they want is lifetime employment, free air travel and a nice consultant job when they are no longer in Congress. For all this, all they have to do is do what they're told.

    In the recent election you had the Komodo dragon vs. the Burmese python. You were getting a reptile no matter who you chose.
    Well, that is perhaps the most self-aware BSABSVR justification I've ever read. So kudos to you for that.

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  • joecct
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    I wish you would respond to my post, though. Since you'd have voted for Handsome Joe, the social issues aren't an auto veto for you. I am deeply perplexed why, realizing the game, you still back the playa.
    Because in a one v one I vet person A v Person B. I'm not looking at the party per SE, though I will favor the GOP if close.

    Globally both parties suck. The leadership is a joke, they both are pawns of the oligarchs, and all they want is lifetime employment, free air travel and a nice consultant job when they are no longer in Congress. For all this, all they have to do is do what they're told.

    In the recent election you had the Komodo dragon vs. the Burmese python. You were getting a reptile no matter who you chose.

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Abortion is an important issue to me, just as something else is to you.

    I would have voted for a pro choice catholic Joe Biden.
    I wish you would respond to my post, though. Since you'd have voted for Handsome Joe, the social issues aren't an auto veto for you. I am deeply perplexed why, realizing the game, you still back the playa.

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  • FreshFish
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    BUT THE GOP IS THE MORE EFFECTIVE TOOL OF THE OLIGARCHS!!!!!!
    why can't you see this?!
    But here's the thing, you do understand the inequality problem. Your statement proves you know the villain of the piece here. You get it.... almost.
    [...etc.....]
    Hmm...by missing the author's point, you do a great job of proving it for him at the same time.

    The author's point, it seemed to me, is that members of the 20% themselves bear primary responsibility for preserving their own status at the expense of everyone else, and the mechanism that allows them to do so with impunity is their facility in finding other people to blame for the problem. You want other people to pay for low-income housing, as long as that low-income housing is not sited in your own neighborhood, for example; you want other people to pay for food assistance for the poor, as long as you yourself never have to meet any of the people actually receiving assistance face-to-face.

    You even come close to that by noting that both parties perpetuate those policies (e.g., mortgage interest deduction for homeowners; charitable deductions for gifts to college endowment funds). Yet somehow you yourself maintain your illusion of moral purity by blaming all of the problem entirely on others.

    That's exactly what the author of the article was describing.

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  • joecct
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    Originally posted by unofan View Post
    I would wager he does, but he's a single issue voter, and the GOP is anti-abortion. All else may be sacrificed for that one thing, even if it doesn't make rational sense or results in objectively worse outcomes for society as a whole.
    Abortion is an important issue to me, just as something else is to you.

    I would have voted for a pro choice catholic Joe Biden.

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  • ScoobyDoo
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by unofan View Post
    I would wager he does, but he's a single issue voter, and the GOP is anti-abortion. All else may be sacrificed for that one thing, even if it doesn't make rational sense or results in objectively worse outcomes for society as a whole.
    It's usually either abortion or guns. The voters don't care about anything else, that's why the GOP gets so much loyalty.

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  • unofan
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post

    BUT THE GOP IS THE MORE EFFECTIVE TOOL OF THE OLIGARCHS!!!!!!

    Sorry to shout, but why can't you see this?!

    WHY?!

    I'm shouting again. Sorry.

    But here's the thing, you do understand the inequality problem. Your statement proves you know the villain of the piece here. You get it.... almost. But there you sit still willing to vote for the GOP whose MISSION STATEMENT, whose only purpose in life, is to execute the oligarchs' will. That's the GOP. "It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear."

    And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until democracy is dead.

    There are definitely Democrats who are terrible and do this too. But still, overarching all, there is a fundamental difference. With the Dems it's a bug. With the GOP, it's their religion. They do it ON PURPOSE because that's the change they want to see in the world.

    This is the exact point of misunderstanding for smart and non-sociopathic Republicans, so I gotta ask you:

    WHY
    DO
    YOU
    NOT
    SEE
    THIS
    ???

    I'll take my answer off the air.
    I would wager he does, but he's a single issue voter, and the GOP is anti-abortion. All else may be sacrificed for that one thing, even if it doesn't make rational sense or results in objectively worse outcomes for society as a whole.

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    And by keeping real wages stagnant, they're driving more and more families down and them up. It's not Dems and it's not the GOP, it's the oligarchs who have the money and the power. The politicians are a tool to keep the status quo.

    BUT THE GOP IS THE MORE EFFECTIVE TOOL OF THE OLIGARCHS!!!!!!

    Sorry to shout, but why can't you see this?!

    WHY?!

    I'm shouting again. Sorry.

    But here's the thing, you do understand the inequality problem. Your statement proves you know the villain of the piece here. You get it.... almost. But there you sit still willing to vote for the GOP whose MISSION STATEMENT, whose only purpose in life, is to execute the oligarchs' will. That's the GOP. "It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear."

    And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until democracy is dead.

    There are definitely Democrats who are terrible and do this too. But still, overarching all, there is a fundamental difference. With the Dems it's a bug. With the GOP, it's their religion. They do it ON PURPOSE because that's the change they want to see in the world.

    This is the exact point of misunderstanding for smart and non-sociopathic Republicans, so I gotta ask you:

    WHY
    DO
    YOU
    NOT
    SEE
    THIS
    ???

    I'll take my answer off the air.
    Last edited by Kepler; 06-12-2017, 01:17 PM.

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