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  • Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Somebody gets it.

    We can confidently expect the Trump administration and its Republican Congressional allies to cut taxes on corporations; to slash taxes on the highest earners; and to roll back the financial regulations that improved the overall safety of our financial system, in part by restraining Wall Street’s ability to speculate. All of Donald Trump’s primary economic policies will have the effect of increasing, not decreasing, inequality. These policies will make the rich richer. They will give the government less tax revenue that could be distributed to the poor and middle class. And they will justify it with the old promise of “unleashing economic growth,” which most respected economists believe is a canard. Trump, a billionaire who reportedly plans to hold on to his business while he is in office, has assembled the wealthiest cabinet in American history. The administration’s tax cuts could personally enrich the Trump family and his cabinet by hundreds of millions of dollars or more, assuming they do not provoke another financial crisis before he leaves office. Larry Kudlow, the CNBC talking head who is reportedly the leading contender to head Trump’s Council of Economic Advisers, is a longtime advocate of tax cuts on high earners, corporations, and capital gains, all policies that will benefit the rich and not the poor or middle class. Kudlow has even advocated a 15% flat tax, a policy that would amount to gift-wrapping tens of millions of dollars and handing it to Donald Trump’s cabinet members each year. It is safe to say that in the annual economic report that Kudlow publishes four years from now, the chapter on reducing inequality will be much different, if it even exists.

    I state all of this simply to encourage us all to look at Trump’s policies through a specific lens. It was the grotesque rise in inequality that made Americans angry enough to elect a man like Donald Trump, and in exchange they will get a set of policies that will make that inequality much, much worse. It is akin in many ways to the fight against climate change: what we need is a radical departure from the norm; what we are getting is a determined plan to do more of what created the problem in the first place.
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      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pl...-idUSKBN1481BI

      Oops.

      U.S. charges Platinum Partners executives with $1 billion fraud
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        Platinum, led by Mark Nordlicht, for years was known for producing exceptionally high and consistent returns by taking an usually aggressive approach to investing and fund management, as outlined by a Reuters Special Report in April.
        I stopped reading right there. As P.T. Barnum probably never said, "a sucker is born every minute".

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          Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
          I stopped reading right there.
          Madoff City. How can anybody not realize a sure thing is only a sure thing for the guy running it?

          They were modest, though. $1B is nothing. Madoff stole $65B, while the banks stole $13T.
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            Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
            I stopped reading right there. As P.T. Barnum probably never said, "a sucker is born every minute".
            You can have consistent returns or you can have high returns. You can't have both. It's almost an economic law at this point.
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            Originally posted by Kepler
            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
            He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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            • Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Madoff City. How can anybody not realize a sure thing is only a sure thing for the guy running it?

              They were modest, though. $1B is nothing. Madoff stole $65B, while the banks stole $13T.
              They should pretty much rename "Ponzi scheme" to "Madoff scheme". $65B over 20+ years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $220M (adjusted for inflation) over 8 months.

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                Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                They should pretty much rename "Ponzi scheme" to "Madoff scheme". $65B over 20+ years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $220M (adjusted for inflation) over 8 months.
                It's the Wilpon Way.
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                  Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                  They should pretty much rename "Ponzi scheme" to "Madoff scheme". $65B over 20+ years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $220M (adjusted for inflation) over 8 months.
                  Or just name it trickle down. It's virtually the same thing.
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                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    I'll take your word for it, although it was not very apparent in the article you posted. The "equality" meme kept shifting around, so that he wasn't always talking about the same thing even though he was using the same word.


                    There was absolutely no evidence offered to indicate that income inequality is a problem for those who are not envious of others' success. Income inequality tends to get worse during recessions and tends to ameliorate during periods of economic growth, which is pretty straightforward. To avoid a tl;dr moment, I'll follow up on those thoughts shortly.

                    While income inequality doesn't seem that problematic an economic issue, wealth inequality certainly is. It genuinely puzzles me why Progressives are so vocal about the former and so silent about the latter, when the severity of the problems are the reverse.

                    There are some dramatic real-life experiments that show how a redistribution of wealth can lead to an improved rate of growth and better overall living standards, notable Henry VIII's break with the Catholic Church in the 1530s putting England on a new growth trajectory, or land reform in Mexico in the 1920s and 1930s leading to much better living standards for the general population.

                    A broader distribution of wealth in a society really does seem to foster entrepreneurial activity, economic growth, and improved standards of living far better than having all the wealth concentrated in a few places.


                    It is notable that the Koch brothers over the past several years had teamed up with the Obama White House to foster entrepreneurship in minority communities, and to reform prison sentencing guidelines.

                    President [Obama], during an N.A.A.C.P. convention last summer, spoke appreciatively of the [Koch] brothers’ efforts on prison sentencing. When the audience responded scornfully to the mention of the Kochs, Obama scolded them: “No—you’ve got to give them credit. You’ve got to call it like you see it.”

                    The Kochs have also launched a nonprofit group, the Libre Initiative, whose aim is to “equip the Hispanic community with the tools they need to be prosperous.” The organization reaches out to Latino voters by offering free services, ranging from Spanish-language driver’s education to English-proficiency classes. This fall, the group handed out Thanksgiving turkeys in Florida. Other organizations controlled by the Kochs are offering “healthy life style” tips to low-income Americans, such as advice on cooking inexpensive nutritious meals. Koch Industries and Charles Koch’s private foundation have donated twenty-five million dollars to the United Negro College Fund; much of the money has been earmarked for educating black students who are interested in studying “how entrepreneurship, economics, and innovation contribute to well-being.”
                    Whether you agree with them or not, they do recognize that wealth inequality is a societal problem and they are doing something constructive about it. As are many other ultra-wealthy people, all of whom seem to have a Foundation voluntarily to redistribute some of their own wealth to others.
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                      While some Progressives denounce income inequality, they offer no evidence why it is a problem.
                      -- some income inequality is actually desirable; that is just another way of saying "incentives matter": you want better outcomes, pay people to produce them!
                      -- some income inequality is inevitable: John wants to leave early, Harry gladly works overtime.
                      -- income inequality statistics are flawed: they merely look at income cohorts without noticing that actual individual people move up and down between cohorts all the time.
                      -- everyone has income "inequality" in their own lifetime! isn't it reasonable that people who have already developed better training, skills, and expertise would earn more than someone who is still learning and developing in those areas?
                      -- income inequality statistics are distorted: they exclude transfer payments. If someone else is paying for your food and housing, why is that not counted as "income" to you? the result is that "low income" people's incomes are artificially low.
                      -- income inequality statistics are distorted: changes in a person's wealth are counted as "income" even though they are not making any more money than they were before. the result is that "high income" people's incomes are artificially high.


                      Income inequality is a natural result of a market economy: some people like money more than other people do; some people like non-financial rewards more than other people do, and they make their choices accordingly. Some people have a relatively short window in which they are in their peak earning years (e.g., athletes); other people can have a much longer window for peak earning years.

                      It is really not as big a problem as people make it out to be.
                      Last edited by FreshFish; 12-21-2016, 03:08 PM.
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                      • Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Madoff City. How can anybody not realize a sure thing is only a sure thing for the guy running it?

                        They were modest, though. $1B is nothing. Madoff stole $65B, while the banks stole $13T.
                        Yes, but Madoff stole from the 1%. Banks stole from the 99%.

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                          Pay very close attention to the Federal Reserve. Increases in FFR leads to busts.

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                            I don't want to link to the story because I don't want to drive traffic to the site, but a Chicago area man is suing McDonald's and the local franchisee for false advertising with regards to its Value Meals. Specifically, the two-cheeseburger value meal is $0.41 more expensive at each and very of the 25 McD's near him than if someone were to order all menu items a la carte. He's saying that they're lying by misuse of the world "value."
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                              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                              Pay very close attention to the Federal Reserve. Increases in FFR leads to busts.
                              Increases in the Federal Funds Rates are traditionally meant to slow a booming economy to stave off high inflation rates.
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                              "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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