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  • #661
    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    Remember when y'all told us that you had survived Bush, and that we'd survive Obama? Well, we survived Obama. You will survive Trump.
    I'd say. Us surviving Bush brought us to Dow 6600. You surviving Obama brought us to Dow 20000.
    Go Gophers!

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    • #662
      Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

      Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
      I'd say. Us surviving Bush brought us to Dow 6600. You surviving Obama brought us to Dow 20000.
      Including massive inflation, and the Dow 30 being manipulated to bloat the value, such as by sticking Apple in there. Not to mention, the percentage of people not in the work force. Yeah, it's been REAL good.

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      • #663
        Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

        Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
        Including massive inflation, and the Dow 30 being manipulated to bloat the value, such as by sticking Apple in there. Not to mention, the percentage of people not in the work force. Yeah, it's been REAL good.
        S&P has more than tripled and total inflation since 2008 has the dollar up just 10%...does that make you feel better? Point is big money is very sophisticated and big money has been euphoric.

        I think there's a good chance the markets are right on Trump. In a vacuum, I think Trump would probably be just fine for business - unless he doubles down on this isolation rhetoric. The looming disaster is for the individual, the government and the risk to the worldwide order. Any of which depending on how that disaster unfolds could tank business.
        Go Gophers!

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        • #664
          Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

          Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
          I think there's a good chance the markets are right on Trump. In a vacuum, I think Trump would probably be just fine for business
          Big business. Main Street is going to get f-cked.
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          • #665
            Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

            Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
            Including massive inflation, and the Dow 30 being manipulated to bloat the value, such as by sticking Apple in there. Not to mention, the percentage of people not in the work force. Yeah, it's been REAL good.
            Swapping out any company for a new one isn't going to directly impact the value of the DJIA, especially when they chose to stick AAPL into the list. There's a coefficient assigned to the value of every stock record to account for things like swapping out companies, stock splits, reverse splits, etc.. They did this because the board of the WSJ wanted the 30 large cap companies that best represented the American economy as a whole, and they knew that list of companies would have to change over time because GM didn't really exist back in the 1890s.

            So on the day the DJIA added AAPL, the DJIA's formula changed to make that switch one-day neutral. After that day, the value of the DJIA is entirely dependent upon its member stocks' market valuations. Given that AAPL has been so highly valued for so long before joining the DJIA, the DJIA opened itself up to a tremendous slide if AAPL makes even a single misstep with the launch of any years' new product lines. When the new iPhone wasn't selling as much as analysts wanted, AAPL took a hard nose dive even though it was the best selling iPhone to date. That's a lot of risk for both AAPL and the DJIA's reported valuation.
            "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

            "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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            • #666
              Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
              Including massive inflation, and the Dow 30 being manipulated to bloat the value, such as by sticking Apple in there. Not to mention, the percentage of people not in the work force. Yeah, it's been REAL good.
              Flaggy is Ms Teen South Carolina? Such as the Iraq, and such as...

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              • #667
                Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Big business. Main Street is going to get f-cked.
                Already bending over now and he hasn't even been sworn in yet. Gonna be a bloodbath.
                **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                • #668
                  Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  Big business. Main Street is going to get f-cked.
                  Potentially, but this is where it gets tricky. At a glance, Trump should be good for big business on several fronts. Main street is a bit more tough to figure...but it certainly shouldn't get the tailwind of big business.

                  Now that changes if Trump results in isolationism. Many smaller businesses could see positive outcomes as marketplace barriers increase...whereas bigger businesses with global connections will get nerfed. And so will the average person as the prices for everything go up and as a result, everyone buys less.
                  Go Gophers!

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                  • #669
                    Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

                    Trump won't implement any of his isolationist rhetoric from the campaign trail, he has too many big suit pals telling him why that would be bad for business and bad for America. It was a campaign promise that he never intended to keep. After all, he's had too many of his personal clothing line items made in Asian countries to even pretend like he doesn't understand what business wants here.
                    "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                    "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                    "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                    • #670
                      Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

                      Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                      Trump won't implement any of his isolationist rhetoric from the campaign trail, he has too many big suit pals telling him why that would be bad for business and bad for America. It was a campaign promise that he never intended to keep. After all, he's had too many of his personal clothing line items made in Asian countries to even pretend like he doesn't understand what business wants here.
                      Translation. Main Street and the Middle Class will take it in the *** again. God Bless America.
                      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                      • #671
                        Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        Translation. Main Street and the Middle Class will take it in the *** again. God Bless America.
                        I would expect that it's more likely that Main Street will see it as a status quo thing. Trump will take actions to help the big suits, but no direct action against small business. That's how we've been operating for a very long time now, with mostly lip-service and symbolic gestures given to small business.
                        "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                        "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                        "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                        • #672
                          Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

                          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                          I would expect that it's more likely that Main Street will see it as a status quo thing. Trump will take actions to help the big suits, but no direct action against small business. That's how we've been operating for a very long time now, with mostly lip-service and symbolic gestures given to small business.
                          Uh, huh. That's why already I am seeing a decrease in my discretionary income for next year even after a raise.
                          **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                          • #673
                            Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                            Uh, huh. That's why already I am seeing a decrease in my discretionary income for next year even after a raise.
                            I can't tell if you're blaming that on Trump or not.

                            I'm seeing a decrease in discretionary spending, but it's not related to the presidential race, that's due to my property tax bill, expected food prices, and little expected pay raise as a result of paying out the now former CEO of the company and EVP of Community Banking to "retire" after highly public misconduct issues.
                            "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                            "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                            "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                            • #674
                              Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                              Translation. Main Street and the Middle Class will take it in the *** again. God Bless America.
                              Scoobs. What's your glass for America? And is that footnote worthy?
                              Go Gophers!

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                              • #675
                                Re: Completely Unwoven: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 4.0

                                Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                                I can't tell if you're blaming that on Trump or not.

                                I'm seeing a decrease in discretionary spending, but it's not related to the presidential race, that's due to my property tax bill, expected food prices, and little expected pay raise as a result of paying out the now former CEO of the company and EVP of Community Banking to "retire" after highly public misconduct issues.
                                I'm not blaming it on Trump. I'm blaming it on the Middle Class being forgotten and all focus being on the poor and the rich.
                                **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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