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  • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

    How about this for a campaign issue - the high cost of child (day) care.
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    • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

      Originally posted by Rover View Post
      Also, please site where 48% of Dems agree with Trump's views.
      It's 18%. Still WAY too high.
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      • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        It's 18%. Still WAY too high.
        They're scared and don't have a safe space to retreat to. One more Muslim attack in this country and it will make the post 9/11 hysteria look mild. If it's a big one, it may bring down the government.
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        • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          How about this for a campaign issue - the high cost of child (day) care.
          I've always thought free day care would be a big winner for the Dems. It probably pays for itself by freeing up so many millions of people to join the workforce, and nothing would do more to break the circle of poverty.

          Not to mention that it's, you know, the right thing to do.

          And part of me wants to enjoy the acute embarrassment of Republicans fulminating against abortion for TEH KULTURE OF LIFE!!!111! and then immediately swatting this proposal down because, hey, once you're born you're on your own, sucka.
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          • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            They're scared and don't have a safe space to retreat to. One more Muslim attack in this country and it will make the post 9/11 hysteria look mild. If it's a big one, it may bring down the government.
            A bit extreme, don't you think?
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            • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
              A bit extreme, don't you think?
              As in the Executive would no longer be the Executive. BHO would be driven out of office on a rail. There could be a legislative coup to drive the entire Executive Branch out.
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              • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                They're scared and don't have a safe space to retreat to. One more Muslim attack in this country and it will make the post 9/11 hysteria look mild. If it's a big one, it may bring down the government.
                I was raised to believe Americans are brave and that was how we managed to keep our civil liberties protections even during times of threat.

                But it turns out that's bull, and it has been throughout our entire history. Americans are the biggest cowards on the planet. Despite two oceans and weak, friendly neighbors, we happily throw all our rights in the trash the instant we get our hair mussed.

                If we ever get The Big One -- dirty bomb in Times Square, that sorta thing -- The Great Experiment in Democracy will be over and we'll be just another Pinochet corporate police state. We took a wrong turn somewhere along the line, maybe by not kicking the South out, maybe even earlier.

                It turns out we're no different from France or Germany or Russia. We are only as free as we feel safe.
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                • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  I was raised to believe Americans are brave and that was how we managed to keep our civil liberties protections even during times of threat.

                  But it turns out that's bull, and it has been throughout our entire history. Americans are the biggest cowards on the planet. Despite two oceans and weak, friendly neighbors, we happily throw all our rights in the trash the instant we get our hair mussed.

                  If we ever get The Big One -- dirty bomb in Times Square, that sorta thing -- The Great Experiment in Democracy will be over and we'll be just another Pinochet corporate police state. We took a wrong turn somewhere along the line, maybe by not kicking the South out, maybe even earlier.

                  It turns out we're no different from France or Germany or Russia. We are only as free as we feel safe.
                  74 years ago we got angry. And 400,000+ Americans died to revenge that episode. Kep, we've changed. We want to be safe and comfortable and will do almost anything to remain in that state. IMO, the same could be said of Europe in the early 30's. The threat was there, but the democracies made accommodations with Germany to keep the status quo in their country (and screw the Czechs). How did that work out?

                  We're doing the same thing. They don't think like us or have the same values. We can't think that because we would do X in response to Y, that they would have the same reaction.

                  Anyone have any ideas?

                  Got any ideas?
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                  • Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    As in the Executive would no longer be the Executive. BHO would be driven out of office on a rail. There could be a legislative coup to drive the entire Executive Branch out.
                    LOL. The legislature can't even wipe their own asses, and you think they'll impeach the President?

                    Republicans really are insane.

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                    • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      Anyone have any ideas?

                      Got any ideas?
                      Yes, you check yourself into an insane asylum. The problem with people of your generation is the idea that the country can't go on without you, so therefore we're all doomed. Get over yourself. The country would survive a terrorist attack much in the same way it survived the last one, and the one before that, and the one before that.
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                      • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        Kep, we've changed.
                        The point is, we haven't changed.
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                        • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          The point is, we haven't changed.
                          Of course we've changed from the idolized version of whatever slice of americana he grew up with that never really existed for anyone else.

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                          • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

                            This appears to be accurate. The only real question is whether Trump will crash and burn before or after the nomination. Democrats hope he gets nominated.
                            He’s chosen a campaign strategy of using media attention to lock up roughly one-quarter of the primary vote, and in doing so, mortgaged off his chances of winning the presidency.
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                            • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

                              Originally posted by geezer View Post
                              This appears to be accurate. The only real question is whether Trump will crash and burn before or after the nomination. Democrats hope he gets nominated.
                              Or runs independent.

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                              • Re: Campaign 2016 - I'm Biden my time till I doctor the hearing.

                                Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
                                Or runs independent.
                                Yeah, that would be interesting. It would surely lock in Hillary for a landslide, right? Not that she would have lost in any case...
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