Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

[cF[Authentic]]

The Russian draft is allegedly the main reason my Great Great Grandfather (paternal) came to the United States. That line had come from Germany (~Frankfurt) over to then-Russia (modern day Ukraine) when Catherine gave great benefits to Germans to move to Russia, which included draft exemption. The story is that as my Great Great Grandfather was growing up, the rules had apparently changed and he was going to be eligible to get drafted. So, him and his two brothers came to the United States.

My ancestors also are Germans from Russia who ended up in North Dakota.

[dxmnkd316]

Huh. Interesting. I figure it was just the Scandinavians who chose the Dakotas. Mine included. Vang and Cavalier, to be more precise.

[leswp1]

My GGF uncle went to Door County Wisconsin. A number of his kids also went there but not all at once. My GGF came over here to Boston and then to FLA. Not one person we can find has any stories about why they came or any info at all. So frustrating

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Huh. Interesting. I figure it was just the Scandinavians who chose the Dakotas. Mine included. Vang and Cavalier, to be more precise.

IINM, those with German heritage roughly equal those with Norwegian/Scandinavian heritage in North Dakota. I, of course, have both (with a sliver of Irish for good luck : - D).

[MissThundercat]

I learned from my brother I'm not the first queer in the family, but I am the first trans person.

[dxmnkd316]

I learned from my brother I'm not the first queer in the family, but I am the first trans person.

Can I ask a fairly personal question? If you were doing a family tree, how would you 'document' (lacking a better word) yourself? I know this will very from person to person, but I'm genuinely curious what if any protocol there is and how you would do it.

obviously, no need to answer if you don't want.

[Ralph Baer]

Earlier this month, I learned that my 4th-great-grandfather Nathan Marx, the father of my ancestor Marx (Mordechai) Nathan who adopted the family name B?r (Baer) in 1809, received Schutz (the rights to live in a specific place, marry, have a family, and of course pay taxes) in 1752 for the town of Malsch. Malsch was at that time in the Markgrafschaft (Margraviate of) Baden-Baden and is now in the Landkreis (county of) Karlsruhe in Baden-W?rttemberg, Germany. My paternal line ancestors through my great-grandfather Nathan Baer in 1846 were all born in Malsch. I learned that he was from Obergrombach, then in the Hochstift (Catholic Church lands of) Speyer (new information) and now also in the Landkreis Karlsruhe. He was engaged to marry a daughter of Abraham of Malsch (also new information, but guessed due to naming patterns).

It was not difficult then to locate information about his father Mordechai (Mordche) Leser in Obergrombach and father-in-law Abraham Isaac in Malsch. This is Mordechai’s gravestone https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/r....asp?key=93181 which I asked to have translated. It was one of about 1800 out of 2300 stones removed in the Nazi era, about 700 of which were re-erected in 1992. This particular one was cut approximately square, probably to be used for paving.


Edit: It looks like I can't type umlauts.

[cF[Authentic]]

Earlier this month, I learned that my 4th-great-grandfather Nathan Marx, the father of my ancestor Marx (Mordechai) Nathan who adopted the family name B?r (Baer) in 1809, received Schutz (the rights to live in a specific place, marry, have a family, and of course pay taxes) in 1752 for the town of Malsch. Malsch was at that time in the Markgrafschaft (Margraviate of) Baden-Baden and is now in the Landkreis (county of) Karlsruhe in Baden-W?rttemberg, Germany. My paternal line ancestors through my great-grandfather Nathan Baer in 1846 were all born in Malsch. I learned that he was from Obergrombach, then in the Hochstift (Catholic Church lands of) Speyer (new information) and now also in the Landkreis Karlsruhe. He was engaged to marry a daughter of Abraham of Malsch (also new information, but guessed due to naming patterns).

It was not difficult then to locate information about his father Mordechai (Mordche) Leser in Obergrombach and father-in-law Abraham Isaac in Malsch. This is Mordechai’s gravestone https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/r....asp?key=93181 which I asked to have translated. It was one of about 1800 out of 2300 stones removed in the Nazi era, about 700 of which were re-erected in 1992. This particular one was cut approximately square, probably to be used for paving.

I work with a Baer about 45 minutes south of Karlsruhe. I'm curious if she knows the history of her family and I'm sure it's intertwined somewhere.

[Ralph Baer]

I work with a Baer about 45 minutes south of Karlsruhe. I'm curious if she knows the history of her family and I'm sure it's intertwined somewhere.

If she is not of Jewish ancestry, it is not the same family. The name was/is very common among both Jews and Christians in the area. I have been told that at one time there were a lot of bears in the Schwarzwald and because of that the name was used by many people. It was one of the ten most common names used by Jews in Baden.

[Ralph Baer]

As probably most people who read this thread know, the 1950 US census was made public yesterday. This is the first one where I am listed. I just found myself, my parents, both sets of grandparents, my father's brother, my mother's sister, the two latter people's spouses, and my two cousins who were alive at the time. As of the moment the only way to look for people is at the National Archives site.

[Kepler]

As probably most people who read this thread know, the 1950 US census was made public yesterday. This is the first one where I am listed. I just found myself, my parents, both sets of grandparents, my father's brother, my mother's sister, the two latter people's spouses, and my two cousins who were alive at the time. As of the moment the only way to look for people is at the National Archives site.

What did they list your profession as? :-)

[Ralph Baer]

What did they list your profession as? :-)

:-D

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[Kepler]

:-D

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I had a fun discussion with my Mom about the 1930 Census when it came out. She had always said her grandpa was a "Banker." The Census listed his profession as "Laborer." Well, yes, she said. That was because the flood wiped him out.

The flood was in 1936.

[LynahFan]

I had a fun discussion with my Mom about the 1930 Census when it came out. She had always said her grandpa was a "Banker." The Census listed his profession as "Laborer." Well, yes, she said. That was because the flood wiped him out.

The flood was in 1936.

I was really hoping that the answer was going to be that he specialized in digging the banks of the ditches.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

I finally buckled down on tracing my dad's family after years of saying I wanted to do it. My mom's tree is already very well documented thanks to one of her uncles.

Made very good progress so far on the greats, and even the great-greats. The trail gets pretty cold after the 2nd-degree greats, which is to be expected when they arrived from rural Slovakia (then Austria-Hungary), where public records were basically non-existent and/or were lost during the wars. I was probably lucky to find a 1903 Pennsylvania marriage cert for my great-great grandfather and grandmother which listed both their parents' names, but good luck tracking down whatever muddy Carpathian village the old family farm was located near.

As for early 20th century public records in the US, it's pretty funny to see how clerks Anglicized our ancestors' Slavic surnames. For example, my great-great grandmother went from Janusik --> Yanosik (on her marriage cert) --> Yansick/Yonsick --> Johnsick (on great-grandpa's marriage cert in Michigan) in the space of about 30 years.