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  • #31
    Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

    No, the restriction of just man-woman was lifted.

    As far as I see it, all the ruling did was that. Age rules still apply, numbers still applied, close relative rules apply, etc. Like lifting the ban on race, this just lifted the restriction on gender.

    That's it.

    Did I miss some of the opinion? That's all that was challenged anyway.
    Last edited by alfablue; 09-04-2015, 04:53 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by alfablue View Post
      No, the restriction of just man-woman was lifted.

      As far as I see it, all the ruling did was that. Age rules still apply, numbers still applied, close relative rules apply, etc. Like lifting the ban on race, this just lifted the restriction on gender.

      That's it.

      Did I miss some of the opinion? That's all that was challenged anyway.
      No, you didn't. That's all it did.

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      • #33
        Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

        Kim Davis' attorney is arguing that the licenses issued today are "invalid" and "not worth the paper they're printed on," all because his client's name is not on them.
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        • #34
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          I wonder what Kim Davis' reaction would be if she went to Wendy's and ordered a Baconator, but the guy behind the counter wouldn't put bacon on it because eating pork goes against the shift manager's deeply held religious beliefs?
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          • #35
            Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

            Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
            I wonder what Kim Davis' reaction would be if she went to Wendy's and ordered a Baconator, but the guy behind the counter wouldn't put bacon on it because eating pork goes against the shift manager's deeply held religious beliefs?

            My guess is before she got famous she would have made a stink and demanded to be served, but now she'd be fully supportive so she doesn't appear ridiculously hypocritical.

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            • #36
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              A ruling that was arguably long overdue, surprised no one, and harms no one, and these bozos go on an attention-seeking binge.

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              • #37
                Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

                Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
                I wonder what Kim Davis' reaction would be if she went to Wendy's and ordered a Baconator, but the guy behind the counter wouldn't put bacon on it because eating pork goes against the shift manager's deeply held religious beliefs?
                I hope she's harassed for a long time with people doing all manner of refusals to serve her.

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                • #38
                  Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

                  Huckabee and some other guy are going to be leading a protest on Tuesday in Grayson, KY to demand Davis' release.
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                  • #39
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                    Legal Beagles -- what is an immoral / illegal law and is it the duty of a citizen / office holder to oppose such a law? We have examples in the military where it is the duty of the soldier not to obey an illegal order. Does the same admonishment extend into the civilian sector?
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                    • #40
                      Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

                      Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
                      Huckabee and some other guy are going to be leading a protest on Tuesday in Grayson, KY to demand Davis' release.
                      I hope those fvcksticks are reverse-trolled with massive amounts of dreaded same-sex kissing.

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                      • #41
                        Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

                        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                        I hope those fvcksticks are reverse-trolled with massive amounts of dreaded same-sex kissing.
                        Here's the facebook page for the protest: https://www.facebook.com/events/1716...y_type=regular
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                        • #42
                          Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

                          Originally posted by joecct View Post
                          Legal Beagles -- what is an immoral / illegal law and is it the duty of a citizen / office holder to oppose such a law? We have examples in the military where it is the duty of the soldier not to obey an illegal order. Does the same admonishment extend into the civilian sector?
                          Joe, with all due respect (and I really don't think you are a bad guy), it should not take a lawyer to realize the difference between a SCOTUS ruling from the country's top legal eagles who have the authority to interpret the law, and an order from a superior officer who does not.

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                          • #43
                            Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            Legal Beagles -- what is an immoral / illegal law and is it the duty of a citizen / office holder to oppose such a law? We have examples in the military where it is the duty of the soldier not to obey an illegal order. Does the same admonishment extend into the civilian sector?
                            Refuse and resign.

                            This has nothing to do with conscience. It's the child kicking and screaming by the candy display at the checkout stand.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by joecct View Post
                              Legal Beagles -- what is an immoral / illegal law and is it the duty of a citizen / office holder to oppose such a law? We have examples in the military where it is the duty of the soldier not to obey an illegal order. Does the same admonishment extend into the civilian sector?
                              As with all things, it depends. The big difference is that civilians are not conscripted, and don't sign their lives away to their jobs, thus they always have the option of quitting.

                              Also, gay marriage isn't illegal, no matter what you personally believe. The nation's highest court just issued a high profile ruling on that.

                              If you're truly asking generically and not simply begging the question, you say state your belief in court and let the courts decide. But if they say it's legal, as with gay marriage, then you **** well better understand it's legal and we're back to choosing between doing your job or quitting.

                              If it's legal but personally immoral, your option is to do it or quit if it involves an essential job function that cannot be reasonably accommodated. And note that reasonableness is a much more employer friendly standard for religious accommodation cases than disability ones.
                              Last edited by unofan; 09-04-2015, 09:58 PM.

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                              • #45
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                                "I'm sorry, I can't issue you this gun license due to my sincerely held religious beliefs. Thou shalt not kill. Doesn't get much clearer than that."

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