I just started that too...very funny but completely ridiculous.
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
So Terence Winter got fired as show-runner of Vinyl over "creative differences'(presumably about how much the show should suck). I know it automatically got renewed for a second season about six minutes into the pilot, but I wonder if a second season actually gets made or if HBO quietly pulls the plug like they did with The Brink. They have to be paying a fortune in music rights and the show just hasn't been that good.
Originally posted by dicaslover Yep, you got it. I heart Maize.
Originally posted by Kristin Maybe I'm missing something but you just asked me which MSU I go to and then you knew the theme of my homecoming, how do you know one and not the other?
So Terence Winter got fired as show-runner of Vinyl over "creative differences'(presumably about how much the show should suck). I know it automatically got renewed for a second season about six minutes into the pilot, but I wonder if a second season actually gets made or if HBO quietly pulls the plug like they did with The Brink. They have to be paying a fortune in music rights and the show just hasn't been that good.
So, is the show worth looking for on streaming/etc services? This post makes it seem not so. Is it bad, or is it ratings?
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So Terence Winter got fired as show-runner of Vinyl over "creative differences'(presumably about how much the show should suck). I know it automatically got renewed for a second season about six minutes into the pilot, but I wonder if a second season actually gets made or if HBO quietly pulls the plug like they did with The Brink. They have to be paying a fortune in music rights and the show just hasn't been that good.
I think the show is great, but HBO only cares if its ratings are good.
It's not a good sign that the show runner got canned. The show has a million "executive producers" and even though some of them may be purely vanity (Mick Jagger, Martin Scorsese), this could indicate that those guys are trying to horn in.
Vinyl has a lot of potential, but it is a pretentious mess as well. Every little decision is some existential crisis for the characters (especially the lead) and there is never any time to breathe. The good parts are very good, but each hour long episode only has so much of the "good" and so very much of the bad. (this would have been better as a 30 minute show) Olivia Wilde has almost no purpose on the show except to be in sex scenes, and every little character flaw is not only highlighted, it is beaten over our heads like Chris Nolan made it on PCP.
The other problem is we know the big name bands in the story arent going to be going to the label cause of history so half the "we need to get that guy!!" stuff is rather pointless except to find a way to shoehorn said artist into the show.
There is enough to play with in the genre that they didnt need to go this route imho. I think the showrunner should have been fired because I honestly have no clue what the purpose of the show is right now. It is like the worst years of Boardwalk Empire where they obviously had no really endgame to the stories so they just kind of throw everything into a pot and see what comes out.
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
I think the show is great, but HBO only cares if its ratings are good.
It's not a good sign that the show runner got canned. The show has a million "executive producers" and even though some of them may be purely vanity (Mick Jagger, Martin Scorsese), this could indicate that those guys are trying to horn in.
HBO shows are a lot more insulated from ratings pressure than any other network on TV, especially in recent times. They'll stick with something if it's good(Girls is on its' fifth season, which has been excellent, btw). Vinyl just hasn't been that good.
Part of the problem is that it's another white male antihero show, which is starting to become cliche at this point--If you haven't seen the show, take one guess at what the main character's relationship with his wife is like. The other half of the problem is that that genre isn't even that well-executed. What separates Richie from the Soprano/Draper/White pantheon is that he sucks at his job. That gives him a lot less leeway with the audience in terms of likability. It's just some guy wandering around being an a-hole.
But I can't stress enough what wonderful work Bobby Cannavale's hair is doing on that show.
Originally posted by dicaslover Yep, you got it. I heart Maize.
Originally posted by Kristin Maybe I'm missing something but you just asked me which MSU I go to and then you knew the theme of my homecoming, how do you know one and not the other?
What separates Richie from the Soprano/Draper/White pantheon is that he sucks at his job.
The whole point of Richie is he's great at his job, he just can't get out of his own way. When we first meet him he's Draper, but at rock bottom. His arc is whether he pulls himself out or crashes.
The whole point of Richie is he's great at his job, he just can't get out of his own way. When we first meet him he's Draper, but at rock bottom. His arc is whether he pulls himself out or crashes.
I disagree, he may have once been great at his job but those days are long past him. His salesman tactics dont work (as shown in pretty much every episode, dude cant close) and he and his partners spent so much time scamming and screwing people over they have almost zero positive rep around town with established acts and they are flat broke. He may have "the Ear" but he has no business sense, no morals, no ethics and is about the last person any one would trust to run a hot dog cart let alone a multi million dollar label. And all of that was true before he jumped off the wagon nose first.
He is not good at his job, in fact I am not even sure he knows how to do his job anymore.
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
So, is the show worth looking for on streaming/etc services? This post makes it seem not so. Is it bad, or is it ratings?
I gave up on it.
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Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23: I only saw a couple episodes of this while it was on its first run, but watching it now on Netflix, and it's great! It's pretty much The Odd Couple premise except the main characters are mid- to late-20s, and they're two women instead of middle-aged men, and there's James Van Der Beek as himself. Seriously, it's so much better than it has any right to be. The only thing off with the show, really, is Dreama Walker's eyes. There might be something like six inches between them, not that they'd stop me because the rest of her is dayumn.
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That show is hilarious and Van Der Beek was awesome on it
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
Changed my cable service around, and got Universal HD added so I can watch the Tour de Suisse later in June. Just happened to stumble across them running the pilot for this show called Kidnapped, that ran for, I don't even think a full season, about ten or so years ago. I'd wanted to watch that then, but for whatever reason I missed it, or couldn't record it because of other stuff, or something. So I'm recording and watching it now.
Stars Dana Delaney and Timothy Hutton as wealthy parents whose son is kidnapped, and Jeremy Sisto and Delrioy Lindo as the people trying to get him back. Three episodes in so far, the usual 24-style twists and turns, we'll see just how complicated this whole web turns out to be.
What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?
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