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  • #31
    Re: TV, or not TV, that is the question

    Bachelors in Paradise is turning into a great show. It's a show for those of us who hate watch The Bachelor/ette, and it's self-referential and self-parodic. Combined with UnReal running at the same time I think we may have transitioned to a new reality format, the Ironic Reality Show.
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    • #32
      Re: TV, or not TV, that is the question

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      Bachelors in Paradise is turning into a great show. It's a show for those of us who hate watch The Bachelor/ette, and it's self-referential and self-parodic. Combined with UnReal running at the same time I think we may have transitioned to a new reality format, the Ironic Reality Show.
      So, like Joe Millionaire or My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance?
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      • #33
        Re: TV, or not TV, that is the question

        Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
        So, like Joe Millionaire or My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance?
        Were those spinoffs of "serious" shows?
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        • #34
          Re: TV, or not TV, that is the question

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          Were those spinoffs of "serious" shows?
          They weren't spin-offs, but both basically ridiculed contestants of reality shows.

          Joe: was portrayed as a millionaire, and they brought in ladies to woo him. He was actually a construction worker or something; the old question of love or money?

          BFOF: the fiance and his family were all actors, and the contestant was made to believe that if she married him, and convinced her family that the "love" and marriage was real, she'd win a big sum of money. A case of what would you do to get paid, as the fiance was really a clumsy moron, etc.
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          • #35
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            True Detective is the biggest worthless pile of cow dung I've ever seen. I gave it a chance. I believed till the final episode the crap would be redeemed. I was wrong. What a complete waste of time.
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            • #36
              Re: TV, or not TV, that is the question

              Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
              They weren't spin-offs, but both basically ridiculed contestants of reality shows.

              Joe: was portrayed as a millionaire, and they brought in ladies to woo him. He was actually a construction worker or something; the old question of love or money?
              Technically, the "Joe" they picked was a millionaire, but all of his money was tied up in assets that he received through inheritance. Otherwise, yeah, he was a construction worker earning something like $30k/year.
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              • #37
                Re: TV, or not TV, that is the question

                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                True Detective is the biggest worthless pile of cow dung I've ever seen. I gave it a chance. I believed till the final episode the crap would be redeemed. I was wrong. What a complete waste of time.
                That seems to be the consensus, I still havent made it past episode 4 yet :/
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                  They weren't spin-offs, but both basically ridiculed contestants of reality shows.

                  Joe: was portrayed as a millionaire, and they brought in ladies to woo him. He was actually a construction worker or something; the old question of love or money?

                  BFOF: the fiance and his family were all actors, and the contestant was made to believe that if she married him, and convinced her family that the "love" and marriage was real, she'd win a big sum of money. A case of what would you do to get paid, as the fiance was really a clumsy moron, etc.
                  The Joe Schmoe show (the original, not the sequel) remains the best parody of reality TV to this day.

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                  • #39
                    Re: TV, or not TV, that is the question

                    Overall, on True Detective, I think I have a higher opinion of it than most people. I think the highs hit with me better than they did with other people, so I have an overall higher opinion of Season 2. But, overall, this season is much, much weaker than Season 1. It isn't Season 7 of Dexter bad, or Season 3 of Homeland bad, though, so there should be some perspective. Part of the reason it seems so bad is because Season 1 was so incredible, that the dropoff, to even mediocre is huge.
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                    • #40
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                      Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
                      Overall, on True Detective, I think I have a higher opinion of it than most people. I think the highs hit with me better than they did with other people, so I have an overall higher opinion of Season 2. But, overall, this season is much, much weaker than Season 1. It isn't Season 7 of Dexter bad, or Season 3 of Homeland bad, though, so there should be some perspective. Part of the reason it seems so bad is because Season 1 was so incredible, that the dropoff, to even mediocre is huge.
                      I've never seen True Detective Season 1. Season 2 is a maggot filled pile of cow dung.
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                      • #41
                        Re: TV, or not TV, that is the question

                        Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                        They weren't spin-offs, but both basically ridiculed contestants of reality shows.
                        Right, but the thing that I find bizarre and unique about BIP is as near as I can tell it's a show created for the hate watchers of TB. Not only are all the usual accouterments (incidental music, editing choices, the actual one on ones themselves) heavily emphasizing the absurd, but the show comes about as close as you could possibly get to saying "Hey, you know all those fake idiots who faked their way through the other fake show we do? Well, hey, let's watch them be fake to each other for a while." It's as if the show is responding to all the people who say "the Bachelor is BS" with an unequivocal "So, you just figured that out?!"

                        Anyway, I think it's wonderful, but that may be because my pals Crazy Ashley and Clare Bear are back.
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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by unofan View Post
                          The Joe Schmoe show (the original, not the sequel) remains the best parody of reality TV to this day.
                          The sequel gave us "Will you accept my pearl necklace?" and "Will you dip your wick in my flame?" Maybe not as good as the original, but still parody gold.

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                          • #43
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                            So it's basically like every show on Tru TV? Is the acting/pretending it is real as obvious?

                            btw I know first hand that one reality show is very unscripted but the editing is masterful.
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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                              True Detective is the biggest worthless pile of cow dung I've ever seen. I gave it a chance. I believed till the final episode the crap would be redeemed. I was wrong. What a complete waste of time.
                              I thought Season 1 was good. I don't know that I'd fawn over it like some critics, but I didn't regret watching it. I thought the story could have probably been condensed into maybe four episodes, but it at least generally held my attention.

                              Season 2 sucked, and its too bad, because I thought the premise had possibilities, the cast had some talent. But it was a story that could have been told in a very average two hour made for television movie. The Lera Lynn songs were good, and probably the only redeeming feature of Season 2.
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                              • #45
                                Re: TV, or not TV, that is the question

                                Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                                I thought Season 1 was good. I don't know that I'd fawn over it like some critics, but I didn't regret watching it. I thought the story could have probably been condensed into maybe four episodes, but it at least generally held my attention.

                                Season 2 sucked, and its too bad, because I thought the premise had possibilities, the cast had some talent. But it was a story that could have been told in a very average two hour made for television movie. The Lera Lynn songs were good, and probably the only redeeming feature of Season 2.
                                So basically somebody remade Heroes?
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