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  • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    I suppose. I'm old, but I'm not that old, and "Dixie" has always seemed like a celebration of slave-holding buffoons to me.

    Then again, "Deutschlandlied" and "The Internationale" are awesome songs -- probably the best two anthems ever written -- and it would be a shame if Hitler and Stalin ruined them forever, so I guess we give Decatur Dan a pass, too.
    Remember that the German anthem was originally the Austrian Anthem to honor the Emperor of Austria-Hungary. And, while the Internationale is OK (started in France, remember), the Soviet/Russian anthem is one of the better martial anthems around.
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    • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      Money quote:
      That is a GD brilliant line.
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      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
      Originally posted by Kepler
      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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      • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

        New GHW Bush autobiography sheds a bit more light on the W administration and kinda validates the extreme to which things went vis a vis the older Bush. A couple of key quotes:

        Of Cheney, who was a member of the elder Bush's cabinet, Bush said, "He just became very hard-line and very different from the Dick Cheney I knew and worked with."

        Bush said he thinks the Sept. 11 attacks changed the vice president, making him more hawkish about the use of U.S. military force abroad.

        "His seeming knuckling under to the real hard-charging guys who want to fight about everything, use force to get our way in the Middle East," Bush said.

        Talking about Rumsfeld, the elder Bush used stronger, more personal criticism, the newspaper reported.

        "I think he served the president badly. I don't like what he did, and I think it hurt the president having his iron-*** view of everything," Bush said.
        Go Gophers!

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        • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

          Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
          New GHW Bush autobiography sheds a bit more light on the W administration and kinda validates the extreme to which things went vis a vis the older Bush. A couple of key quotes:

          Of Cheney, who was a member of the elder Bush's cabinet, Bush said, "He just became very hard-line and very different from the Dick Cheney I knew and worked with."

          Bush said he thinks the Sept. 11 attacks changed the vice president, making him more hawkish about the use of U.S. military force abroad.

          "His seeming knuckling under to the real hard-charging guys who want to fight about everything, use force to get our way in the Middle East," Bush said.

          Talking about Rumsfeld, the elder Bush used stronger, more personal criticism, the newspaper reported.

          "I think he served the president badly. I don't like what he did, and I think it hurt the president having his iron-*** view of everything," Bush said.
          I read that, and a lot of it comes across as, "Blame his advisors, not the man in charge - do not blame my son!"
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          • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

            Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
            I read that, and a lot of it comes across as, "Blame his advisors, not the man in charge - do not blame my son!"
            As with Jeb's comment abut Iraq, it's obvious that the Bush clan sees the world as divided between them and everybody else. The rest of us are only here to serve their needs.
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            • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
              I read that, and a lot of it comes across as, "Blame his advisors, not the man in charge - do not blame my son!"
              Would you throw your son under the bus? Family first.
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              • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                Of course he's going to defend W. And let's be honest, there is plenty of blame to go around in that administration.

                Ultimately though, he was "The Decider".

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                • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                  Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                  Of course he's going to defend W. And let's be honest, there is plenty of blame to go around in that administration.

                  Ultimately though, he was "The Decider".
                  Sounds to me like Daddy is admitting his son was a Cheney puppet. Can't say I'm surprised.
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                  • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    Would you throw your son under the bus? Family first.
                    No, I wouldn't. However, GHWB intentionally placed himself in a position where he had to perform verbal and logistical gymnastics to twist his way around the idea that the president isn't at fault for what his administration did. He's the man who had to ultimately authorize whatever bad advice these men may have given him. GWB could've - should've - asked for other options than those given to him by Cheney and Rumsfeld. Ultimately, he did just that with Rumsfeld, but we don't know if it was at the behest of Cheney or Rove, or something he did on his own.
                    "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                    "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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                    • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                      Yeah, I appreciate the old man's effort but when Cheney wanted to get involved in Syria Bush shot him down, so clealry he had the ability to say no. Same with the Scooter Libby pardon that D_head Cheney was pushing for.

                      Yes, Cheney and Rumsfeld were incompetent, but that was obvious pretty early on.
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                      • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                        Elizabeth does it again. From her Facebook page.
                        On January 1st, for just the third time since 1975, seniors who receive Social Security won't be getting an annual cost of living adjustment. Neither will millions of other Americans whose veterans' benefits, disability benefits, and other monthly payments are pegged to Social Security. Today I introduced the Seniors and Veterans Emergency Benefits Act (SAVE Benefits Act) to give seniors, vets, and other Social Security recipients a one-time 3.9% payment in 2016 -- the same raise that America's top CEOs received last year. The bill is paid for entirely by closing a tax loophole that allows corporations to write off obscene executive bonuses as a business expense for "performance pay" -- a loophole that would generate so much revenue that we could give every senior this $581 check and still have money left over to extend the life of the Social Security trust fund. Watch my floor speech introducing this bill and ask your representatives to give seniors and veterans the support they need on January 1st.
                        No guts in the GOP to pass this I bet.
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                        • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          Elizabeth does it again. From her Facebook page.


                          No guts in the GOP to pass this I bet.
                          Liz - the Federal retirees won't get a raise either. The reason for SS/Feds no COLA is falling gas prices. Guess who does not drive a lot? Yep - senior citizens.
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                          • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                            How much money is wasted every year coming up with more and more ridiculous acronyms.
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                            Originally posted by SanTropez
                            May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                            Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                            I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                            Originally posted by Kepler
                            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                            He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                              How much money is wasted every year coming up with more and more ridiculous acronyms.
                              $7 billion.
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                              • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                                Motherfkers.......
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                                Originally posted by SanTropez
                                May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                                Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                                I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                                Originally posted by Kepler
                                When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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