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  • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    As to God picking winners and losers, if you believe in predestination, He did. I don't.
    Good for you, but today's garden variety conservative thinks a bit different, since most candidates for President claim God has endorsed their bid for office. If that isn't God picking winners or losers, I don't know what is. Recall that when you vote for one of these clowns.
    Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

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    • Originally posted by Rover View Post
      Good for you, but today's garden variety conservative thinks a bit different, since most candidates for President claim God has endorsed their bid for office. If that isn't God picking winners or losers, I don't know what is. Recall that when you vote for one of these clowns.
      I don't believe that I can vote for your champion.
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      • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

        Today in derp.

        A Wisconsin sheriff who is frequently a guest on Fox News predicted Tuesday night that the anti-police brutality organization Black Lives Matter will eventually join forces with the Islamic State terror group.
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        • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          I don't believe that I can vote for your champion.
          I have a feeling she has factored that in.
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          • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

            Originally posted by Rover View Post
            Good for you, but today's garden variety conservative thinks a bit different, since most candidates for President claim God has endorsed their bid for office. If that isn't God picking winners or losers, I don't know what is. Recall that when you vote for one of these clowns.
            Specific citations please for Republican candidates who claim "God endorsed" their bid for the Presidency. They talking about God in general doesn't count as that's a different thing than claiming an endorsement. Seriously, I would view it as a negative if anyone claims God endorsed their specific candidacy. I'm ok with folks saying they think they are proposing things that align with God's teachings and such, but I've never like the endorsement claim.
            Originally posted by Priceless
            Good to see you're so reasonable.
            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
            Very well, said.
            Originally posted by Rover
            A fair assessment Bob.

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            • Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
              Specific citations please for Republican candidates who claim "God endorsed" their bid for the Presidency. They talking about God in general doesn't count as that's a different thing than claiming an endorsement. Seriously, I would view it as a negative if anyone claims God endorsed their specific candidacy. I'm ok with folks saying they think they are proposing things that align with God's teachings and such, but I've never like the endorsement claim.
              I think the last time God specifically endorsed anyone was by the River Jordan. But, heck, that was his kid.
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              • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                Specific citations please for Republican candidates who claim "God endorsed" their bid for the Presidency. They talking about God in general doesn't count as that's a different thing than claiming an endorsement. Seriously, I would view it as a negative if anyone claims God endorsed their specific candidacy. I'm ok with folks saying they think they are proposing things that align with God's teachings and such, but I've never like the endorsement claim.
                It's more of the Mike Huckabee crowd, who is known for saying things like, I prayed long and hard on this. I spoke to God, and that's when he told me to run - not the Kwik-E-Mart, but for President of the United States. While I'm not quoting the man on this, I have seen clips of him over the years saying something very close to that.
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                • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                  Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                  It's more of the Mike Huckabee crowd, who is known for saying things like, I prayed long and hard on this. I spoke to God, and that's when he told me to run - not the Kwik-E-Mart, but for President of the United States. While I'm not quoting the man on this, I have seen clips of him over the years saying something very close to that.
                  I'd just note that feeling God led you to run for President of the United States is not the same as saying he has endorsed your campaign. In some ways similar and easy to spin as being the same on the surface, but ultimately quite different. A number of people could feel led to run for President, yet God that doesn't mean God somehow "endorses" them, whatever that even means.
                  Originally posted by Priceless
                  Good to see you're so reasonable.
                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                  Very well, said.
                  Originally posted by Rover
                  A fair assessment Bob.

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                  • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                    Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                    Specific citations please for Republican candidates who claim "God endorsed" their bid for the Presidency. They talking about God in general doesn't count as that's a different thing than claiming an endorsement. Seriously, I would view it as a negative if anyone claims God endorsed their specific candidacy. I'm ok with folks saying they think they are proposing things that align with God's teachings and such, but I've never like the endorsement claim.
                    http://www.salon.com/2015/07/22/gods...s_them_to_run/

                    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...n-winner.html#

                    Saying "I pray to God that I'm making the right decision" is different than the Lord is guiding my campaign. How, Bob, would any mortal know that?
                    Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                    Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                    "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                    • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                      Originally posted by Rover View Post
                      Saying "I pray to God that I'm making the right decision" is different than the Lord is guiding my campaign. How, Bob, would any mortal know that?
                      Saying "I pray to God that I'm making the right decision" has a double-meaning. To normal people it says "When making decisions I keep in mind we are all fallible, and I do the best I can." But to people who fervently believe in literalism and the effective power of prayer it can mean you're dialing for divine inspiration.

                      Politics is the ability, when confronted by two people who violently disagree with each other, to be able to say words that each person goes away thinking "that guy's on my side." The "I'll pray on it" gambit is one of the most popular ploys -- it plays to sell out crowds among the hyper-faithful, and nobody else takes it as anything more than a meaningless expression.
                      Last edited by Kepler; 10-30-2015, 09:20 AM.
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                      • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Saying "I pray to God that I'm making the right decision" has a double-meaning. To normal people it says "When making decisions I keep in mind we are all fallible, and I do the best I can." But people who actually believe in literalism and the effective power of prayer it means you're actually dialing for divine inspiration.

                        Politics is the ability, when confronted by two people who violently disagree with each other, to be able to say words that each person goes away thinking "that guy's on my side." The "I'll pray on it" gambit is one of the most popular plays -- it plays to sell out crowds among the hyper-faithful, and nobody else takes it as anything more than a meaningless expression.
                        No, it has only one meaning. Your kind created the second meaning in order to push your agenda. Just like how the word "patriot" can no longer be used in connection with freedom because of the PATRIOT Act, or how the word "safe" created defencelessness and danger in NYS.

                        Vocabulary has been the ultimate weapon for many years. Eventually, the double meanings will bring the world down to minimal language and dumb sheep that are very easily manipulated.

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                        • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                          Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                          No, it has only one meaning. Your kind created the second meaning in order to push your agenda. Just like how the word "patriot" can no longer be used in connection with freedom because of the PATRIOT Act, or how the word "safe" created defencelessness and danger in NYS.

                          Vocabulary has been the ultimate weapon for many years. Eventually, the double meanings will bring the world down to minimal language and dumb sheep that are very easily manipulated.
                          My "kind"?
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                          • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                            Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                            Vocabulary has been the ultimate weapon for many years. Eventually, the double meanings will bring the world down to minimal language and dumb sheep that are very easily manipulated.
                            It definitely worked in your case. Your posts couldn't get any dumber if you tried!
                            Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                            Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                            "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              It had me scratching my head too. Let us all agree that fear makes for some awfully strange (and bad) legislation.
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                              ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                              - Benjamin Franklin

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                              • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                                Your kind created the second meaning in order to push your agenda. Just like how the word "patriot" can no longer be used in connection with freedom because of the PATRIOT Act, or how the word "safe" created defencelessness and danger in NYS.

                                Vocabulary has been the ultimate weapon for many years. Eventually, the double meanings will bring the world down to minimal language and dumb sheep that are very easily manipulated.
                                Wow. You do illustrate your point well, Flaggy.

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