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  • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

    Is blackmail a crime?

    Regardless - the question of the day. .

    If gun-free zones are effective and border fences are ineffective, why is the border of the White House surrounded by a huge fence guarded by lots of Secret Service agents with guns?
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    • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      Is blackmail a crime?

      Regardless - the question of the day. .

      If gun-free zones are effective and border fences are ineffective, why is the border of the White House surrounded by a huge fence guarded by lots of Secret Service agents with guns?
      Considering just about anybody can get in the White House or fly to it I find your assertion hilarious.
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      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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      • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        Is blackmail a crime?

        Regardless - the question of the day. .

        If gun-free zones are effective and border fences are ineffective, why is the border of the White House surrounded by a huge fence guarded by lots of Secret Service agents with guns?
        First, blackmail's only a crime if you get caught and someone convicts you.

        Second, rules about weapons don't apply to the ruling class.

        Third, do as they say, not as they do.

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        • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          Is blackmail a crime?

          Regardless - the question of the day. .

          If gun-free zones are effective and border fences are ineffective, why is the border of the White House surrounded by a huge fence guarded by lots of Secret Service agents with guns?
          Has someone suggested we build a 2000 mile long fence with white house level personnel coverage? If so, has someone suggested that this wouldn't be effective?

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          • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

            Depends on if the victim threatened Hastert with exposure if he didn't pay up. This whole thing is pretty odd, as $3.5M and counting is a lot of dough for a payoff. This leads to the question of 1) where does Hastert get all of this money as he wasn't rich when he got to Congress, and 2) what exactly does this person have on him?

            Strom Thurmond supported his black illegitimate daughter somewhat throughout his life, but I've never heard that she blackmailed (no pun intended) him into it. Only Hastert can speak to his motivations, but if this is true he's going to go down in history and not in a good way.
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              Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
              Has someone suggested we build a 2000 mile long fence with white house level personnel coverage? If so, has someone suggested that this wouldn't be effective?
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                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                Glory to Arstotzka.
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                  Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                  Glory to Arstotzka.
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                  • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                    Today in Republicanism:

                    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...D=sm_fb_maddow

                    Rev. Franklin Graham is calling for a boycott of gay-friendly businesses, beginning by pulling his ministry’s accounts from Wells Fargo after the bank ran an ad featuring a gay couple.

                    Graham, son of the famed evangelical pastor Billy Graham, runs the church his father started, the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, which had net assets of $295 million in 2014, according to the most recent data available on the ministry’s website.

                    Right Wing Watch explained that the evangelical pastor is moving his ministry’s accounts to BB&T, another North Carolina-based bank. Oops.

                    Graham may not have done much research, as BB&T has received an 80 percent score in the Human Rights Campaign’s Corporate Equality Index and this year is the sponsor of the Miami Beach Gay Pride Parade, along with the chief sponsor of Miami Beach Gay Pride’s “Legacy Couples” program, which celebrates same-sex couples in “committed relationships of 10 years or longer.”

                    A bank spokesman said the company hopes to “support the individuals and organizations that broaden our perspectives and strengthen the diverse fabric of our communities. That’s why BB&T is proud to be a part of this day of pride and celebration of the 2015 Legacy Couples.”

                    In fact, BB&T hosted a same-sex couple’s wedding reception earlier this year “in a makeshift chapel at event sponsor BB&T Bank South Beach branch.
                    I swear these people are brain dead.
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                    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                    • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                      He's not going to find a bank that can handle $295MM in deposits that supports his views. He'd have to find a small community bank that has only a branch or three if he wants one that's not gay friendly. Even then he'll have to pay close attention. Simply put, he's out of options.

                      ETA: Excuse me, he has $295MM in assets, which would likely give his org around $10-15MM in deposits. My point still stands.
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                      • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                        Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                        He's not going to find a bank that can handle $295MM in deposits that supports his views. He'd have to find a small community bank that has only a branch or three if he wants one that's not gay friendly. Even then he'll have to pay close attention. Simply put, he's out of options.

                        ETA: Excuse me, he has $295MM in assets, which would likely give his org around $10-15MM in deposits. My point still stands.
                        I'm surprised they're not trying to create a parallel economy. They've got parallel churchs, think tanks, media outlets, and schools, why not create parallel banks, law firms, and insurance companies to go with the likes of Hobby Lobby, Cracker Barrel, Purina, and Chick-fil-A?

                        I'm not really kidding -- they'd have to be careful about staying right on the line of civil rights laws, but they could probably get away with a lot of Neanderthal crap, and they have an enormous consumer base to exploit. It could work like the Hasidim, right down to the wire fraud and molestation.
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                        • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          I'm surprised they're not trying to create a parallel economy. They've got parallel churchs, think tanks, media outlets, and schools, why not create parallel banks, law firms, and insurance companies to go with the likes of Hobby Lobby, Cracker Barrel, Purina, and Chick-fil-A?

                          I'm not really kidding -- they'd have to be careful about staying right on the line of civil rights laws, but they could probably get away with a lot of Neanderthal crap, and they have an enormous consumer base to exploit. It could work like the Hasidim, right down to the wire fraud and molestation.
                          Banks are highly regulated institutions, so I'm not sure The First National Bank of the Klan could get a charter. Beyond that though, if the banking industry could prevent Wal-Mart from offering banking services due to the threat of competition, Franklin Graham doesn't have a prayer (pun intended).
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                          • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                            Graham's move doesn't make sense to me, especially looking long term. The PC police will increasingly hound those who do not conform and moving business to entities that haven't caved in yet is at best a short term stop gap measure, as eventually all will submit or will be hounded out of business.
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                            Good to see you're so reasonable.
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                            Very well, said.
                            Originally posted by Rover
                            A fair assessment Bob.

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                            • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              He's not going to find a bank that can handle $295MM in deposits that supports his views. He'd have to find a small community bank that has only a branch or three if he wants one that's not gay friendly. Even then he'll have to pay close attention. Simply put, he's out of options.

                              ETA: Excuse me, he has $295MM in assets, which would likely give his org around $10-15MM in deposits. My point still stands.
                              He should have thought of that, or at least done his research, before he opened his mouth.
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                              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                              • Re: 2nd Term Part X - A link to a fore gone conclusion

                                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                                Banks are highly regulated institutions, so I'm not sure The First National Bank of the Klan could get a charter. Beyond that though, if the banking industry could prevent Wal-Mart from offering banking services due to the threat of competition, Franklin Graham doesn't have a prayer (pun intended).
                                It's possible they could get a charter. FDIC insurance, on the other hand, probably wouldn't happen.

                                There was a time when credit unions were created for the sole use of dues-paying members of various unions and their families, hence why they still have some corporate ties, as do some banks (Ally was originally the financing division for General Motors before they went independent; H&R Block also had a similar financial institution, as I remember that was the reason I bought their stock, as the panic over that sale made zero sense to me). Obviously credit unions have started to open their doors to everyone, mostly catering to people trying to circumvent Glass-Steagall and Dodd-Frank, and they have their own insuring agency.

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