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  • #826
    Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

    Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
    Are you covered under an exchange policy? or under your employer's group plan?
    Was covered for the first 22 years under my parents' plan and have been under two separate plans under my employers'. All three have been with the same insurance company/administrator.
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    • #827
      Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

      Originally posted by Rover View Post
      Both he and Romney ran on a repeal platform. IF this issue truly matters more than female companionship for most people, including several USCHO posters, one would think the voters would have overlooked the flaws in both men and elected them President, no?

      Or, perhaps people get tuned out if they're not stop whiners with zero workable solutions?
      It's nowhere near the center of this election. Trump's losing because he's Trump. You could maybe have a point if this were a traditional election, one about the issues, but this election is about Trump's fantastically undeserved ego and Clinton's family name.
      "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

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      • #828
        Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

        Originally posted by Rover View Post
        Or, perhaps people get tuned out if they're not stop whiners with zero workable solutions?
        Everyone knows this is the real reason for all of the repeal votes. Modern conservatives want a gov't-free system. The employed, and retirees who worked long enough to get a pass, are covered. Everyone else can beg for charity, or get fcked.

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        • #829
          Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

          Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
          Everyone knows this is the real reason for all of the repeal votes. Modern conservatives want a gov't-free system. The employed, and retirees who worked long enough to get a pass, are covered. Everyone else can beg for charity, or get fcked.
          There is a mindset that would screw 1 million people in need if it prevented 1 person from abusing the system. I have never been able to crawl inside that head. It's like a form of brain damage.
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          • #830
            Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            There is a mindset that would screw 1 million people in need if it prevented 1 person from abusing the system. I have never been able to crawl inside that head. It's like a form of brain damage.
            Yeah, I don't get that mindset either.
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            • #831
              Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              There is a mindset that would screw 1 million people in need if it prevented 1 person from abusing the system. I have never been able to crawl inside that head. It's like a form of brain damage.
              Hang on a sec... You cannot understand the ends justifying the means, but you'll still support politicians that have wrapped their entire ideologies around making the ends justify the means?

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              • #832
                Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                There is a mindset that would screw 1 million people in need if it prevented 1 person from abusing the system. I have never been able to crawl inside that head. It's like a form of brain damage.
                Hmm...opponents of the death penalty use an argument that is identical in structural form to the one you just laid out, although I totally agree that the contents of that argument are very much different indeed:

                "the chance that one innocent person might be executed is sufficient reason to stop all executions of guilty people as well." that is not brain damage at all.

                the logical structure is identical, the content of the clauses is the opposite.


                The problem is not in the logic you presented (i.e., "head," "brain"), it is the total absence of compassion behind that attitude that makes it so repulsive (i.e., "heartless").
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                • #833
                  Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                  Remember the uproar over Death Panels?

                  http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/ne...suicide-46828/
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                  • #834
                    Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    Remember the uproar over Death Panels?

                    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/ne...suicide-46828/
                    Remember how it was complete BS?

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                    • #835
                      Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                      Remember how it was complete BS?
                      Let's see - the health insurance won't cover the cancer drug but will cover the assisted suicide pill.

                      Guess we know what the insurer hopes the patient will do.
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                      1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                      ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
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                      • #836
                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        Let's see - the health insurance won't cover the cancer drug but will cover the assisted suicide pill.

                        Guess we know what the insurer hopes the patient will do.
                        So now the insurance company is the same as a government death panel?

                        I specifically recall saying insurance companies were doing this long before ObamaCare was around.

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                        • #837
                          Originally posted by unofan View Post
                          So now the insurance company is the same as a government death panel?

                          I specifically recall saying insurance companies were doing this long before ObamaCare was around.
                          How many states had assisted suicide laws prior to PPACA? Oregon and Washington come to mind - any others?
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                          4 kids
                          5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
                          1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                          ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                          - Benjamin Franklin

                          Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

                          I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                          • #838
                            Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            Let's see - the health insurance won't cover the cancer drug but will cover the assisted suicide pill.

                            Guess we know what the insurer hopes the patient will do.
                            You left out the best part. They ask if the patient voted for Obama too! If they did - they get the cancer drug. If they didn't - SUICIDE PILL BABY!

                            I stand by my profiling of the typical anti-ACA person from post #821...
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                            • #839
                              Originally posted by joecct View Post
                              How many states had assisted suicide laws prior to PPACA? Oregon and Washington come to mind - any others?
                              What's that matter? If you can't get the cancer drug, you're dead either way.

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                              • #840
                                Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                                Originally posted by unofan View Post
                                What's that matter? If you can't get the cancer drug, you're dead either way.
                                Everyone since the dawn of time has (or will) died. Your statement seems a bit callous.
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                                1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                                ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
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