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  • #91
    Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Rover you really make some of the most childish remarks on this site. Really pathetic.
    Then get lost. I'm not going anywhere so suffer or like it.
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    • #92
      Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

      Way to act like an adult
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      • #93
        Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
        Way to act like an adult
        I've already put the poster on ignore.

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        • #94
          Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
          Way to act like an adult
          Boo hoo hoo. If you don't like it join the sewing circle message board. In the meantime conservatives get what they deserve out here, which is really the only standard that matters.
          Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

          Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

          "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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          • #95
            Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

            Well gee whiz, less costs for hospitals for uninsured patients for states that have embraced the ACA!

            http://www.cnbc.com/id/102527452

            Knucks', talk to me. More good news out of Obamacare.
            Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

            Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

            "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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            • #96
              Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

              Originally posted by Rover View Post
              Well gee whiz, less costs for hospitals for uninsured patients for states that have embraced the ACA!

              http://www.cnbc.com/id/102527452

              Knucks', talk to me. More good news out of Obamacare.
              It's so nice even Ted Cruz is getting in on the action: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politi...ruz-obamacare/
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              • #97
                Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                Want to save money on Medicare? Throw out the Cubans! And I don't mean the cigars. http://www.allgov.com/news/us-and-th...12?news=855344

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                • #98
                  Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                  So! Remember when we talked about if doctors were getting swamped and wanted a study to back up the anecdotal evidence? Asked and answered....

                  http://www.cnbc.com/id/102538573?trk...tack:topnews:1
                  Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                  Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                  "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                  • #99
                    Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                    Pretty good article on Burwell.
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                    • #100
                      Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                      I thought healthcare costs were supposed to EXPLODE after the ACA went into effect? Funny how much less we've been spending and are expected to spend...

                      http://www.cnbc.com/id/102570162
                      Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                      Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                      "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                      • #101
                        Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                        Originally posted by Rover View Post
                        I thought healthcare costs were supposed to EXPLODE after the ACA went into effect? Funny how much less we've been spending and are expected to spend...

                        http://www.cnbc.com/id/102570162
                        Clearly it's just as you say and nothing else could be skewing these numbers in the ACA's favor after a superficial glance.

                        The lingering effects of the recession, slow income growth and possibly Obamacare are all contributing to a sharp drop in estimates of how much will be spent on health care through the rest of this decade.
                        That's the very first paragraph in the article.

                        ...

                        The ACA, also known as Obamacare, began taking full effect in 2014, and is scheduled to be almost fully implemented in 2018, when the so-called Cadillac tax on pricy group health plans kicks in.

                        Much of the reductions in projected spending are "due to the recent recession, and a long period of slow income growth; the growth of high deductible private health plans, cost constraints within state Medicaid programs and Medicare policies related to the ACA," the report said. The study noted that national health spending since 2009 "has grown at historically low rates," which played a large part in the lowering of projected spending.
                        Much of what this is saying is that it's more expensive to get health care at the same rates as we could seven years ago while stagnant wages exacerbate the issue of unaffordable healthcare. Oh, and the high deductible private health plans became the norm as a reaction to the changes put in place by the ACA. Yeah, that makes everything much more affordable.
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                        • #102
                          Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                          Clown, nice try but you missed the point. Knuckledraggers never qualified their predictions of doom. They said the ACA would blow up healthcare as we know it, and explode costs. This dire prediction was regardless of recession, recovery, prosperity, or zombie apocalypse. Your side made these predictions, so you own it.

                          As the article correctly states, its tough to parse out the % of recession/slowdown vs ACA on reduced costs, although Kaiser put it at roughly 75/25. 25% of $2.5T in savings is $625 Billion. Not too shabby, and you'll also notice this quote at the end:

                          "The foundation said the new projections may "still be high" given the fact that premiums for health insurance plans offered through government-run Obamacare marketplaces are "much lower than experts originally thought they would be."

                          Read 'em and weep.
                          Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                          Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                          "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                          • #103
                            Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                            Uninsured rates just keep coming down...

                            http://www.cnbc.com/id/102581345

                            Now, since the popular knuckledragger position is that current job growth is all part time jobs, which don't carry health care coverage with them, then the ACA MUST be the reason why more people are getting covered, correct?
                            Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                            Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                            "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                            • #104
                              Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                              Originally posted by Rover View Post
                              Uninsured rates just keep coming down...

                              http://www.cnbc.com/id/102581345

                              Now, since the popular knuckledragger position is that current job growth is all part time jobs, which don't carry health care coverage with them, then the ACA MUST be the reason why more people are getting covered, correct?
                              Even if we are seeing a little bump in pay to the lowest end of the spectrum middle class wages are stagnant and the middle class is carrying the water on Health Care.
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                              • #105
                                Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                                How much do you think childbirth costs in the United States?

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