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  • #841
    Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Let's see - the health insurance won't cover the cancer drug but will cover the assisted suicide pill.

    Guess we know what the insurer hopes the patient will do.
    No, we don't. That story feels rather incomplete...

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    • #842
      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      Everyone since the dawn of time has (or will) died. Your statement seems a bit callous.
      I'm callous because your position is absurd. You're acting like private insurance companies haven't been making such life and death calls for decades. But now that you can blame the government too, it's all of a sudden bad.

      Hell, there was a mediocre Denzel Washington movie made about this kind of scenario back in the 90s, I think.
      Last edited by unofan; 10-21-2016, 12:58 AM.

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      • #843
        Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

        Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
        No, we don't. That story feels rather incomplete...
        It's not incomplete at all. Health insurers, the FDA, and pharmaceuticals are all in co-hoots. Pharma wants the recurring revenue from treatment that doesn't really work over a one-time remedy that is a cure. So they've lobbied government to appoint FD administrators that will ban the NRR and fast-track the RR, and at the same time, work with insurers for the same fast-tracks, perhaps also paying for some sponsorships.

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        • #844
          Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

          I've survived cancer, but if I'm ever in a terminal condition, I hope to Parise I will have a choice to end it on my terms (with assisted suicide). Being able to insure against that cost makes sense to me. I understand now that if I become terminal, spending big money to extend my life by weeks or months with chemo/radiation will not save me but will run up costs for others who do have lives to live. Of course insurance companies will be better off paying for assisted suicide than for chemo for a terminal patient, but given the big picture, I don't have a problem with that.

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          • #845
            Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

            Originally posted by burd View Post
            I've survived cancer, but if I'm ever in a terminal condition, I hope to Parise I will have a choice to end it on my terms (with assisted suicide). Being able to insure against that cost makes sense to me. I understand now that if I become terminal, spending big money to extend my life by weeks or months with chemo/radiation will not save me but will run up costs for others who do have lives to live. Of course insurance companies will be better off paying for assisted suicide than for chemo for a terminal patient, but given the big picture, I don't have a problem with that.
            Maybe that's why they've re-introduced the death tax...

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            • #846
              Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
              Maybe that's why they've re-introduced the death tax...
              That's not going to affect you though Flaggy. Once Hillary is in office and we send you to that gulag of our choice, all of your assets will be confiscated at the time of your incarceration. So, no death tax!!!
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              • #847
                Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

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                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                • #848
                  Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                  Originally posted by Rover View Post
                  That's not going to affect you though Flaggy. Once Hillary is in office and we send you to that gulag of our choice, all of your assets will be confiscated at the time of your incarceration. So, no death tax!!!
                  Just an Incarceration Tax.
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                  • #849
                    Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                    Originally posted by Rover View Post
                    all of your assets will be confiscated at the time of your incarceration
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                    • #850
                      Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                      Hall of fame. I'm crying right now.
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                      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                      Originally posted by Kepler
                      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                      • #851
                        Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                        Originally posted by Rover View Post
                        That's not going to affect you though Flaggy. Once Hillary is in office and we send you to that gulag of our choice, all of your assets will be confiscated at the time of your incarceration. So, no death tax!!!
                        Just remember that the "friends" are the most dangerous. They're usually the first to go.

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                        • #852
                          Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                          Good News!

                          Everybody's probably heard today that ObamaCare premiums are going up dramatically next year.

                          But no worries! I just heard on the way home that they'll probably just increase something they call subsidies!

                          So the increase will just all be FREE! Yay!
                          Originally posted by WiscTJK
                          I'm with Wisko and Tim.
                          Originally posted by Timothy A
                          Other than Wisko McBadgerton and Badger Bob, who is universally loved by all?

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                          • #853
                            Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                            Originally posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
                            Good News!

                            Everybody's probably heard today that ObamaCare premiums are going up dramatically next year.

                            But no worries! I just heard on the way home that they'll probably just increase something they call subsidies!

                            So the increase will just all be FREE! Yay!
                            Its only 116% in Arizona.
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                            • #854
                              Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                              Some guy earlier in the thread but still on point:

                              Originally posted by Some Guy View Post
                              Most complaints about repealing the ACA at this point are confined to frustrated older conservative males who haven't been laid in 30 years and blame the ACA for that. I don't want to name names here (cough..Fishy...cough) but that's pretty much it. But, I'll make it simple. The last two Gooper Presidential candidates ran explicitly on a repeal and go back to the pre-ACA set up platform. One guy (Mittens) lost handily. The other (Trump) is about to get crushed! If people truly felt the way the serial whiners do, why won't the public elect these men President? Dealing with anti-Obamacare people is like dealing with the Flat Earthed Society. Eventually when it turns out you're not looking for solutions but just want to complain, you just set yourselves up as objects of ridicule. That works for me, but I'm not sure what you get out of it.
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                              "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                              • #855
                                Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                                Mookie's premiums are going up 12% in 2017
                                a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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