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  • #286
    Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

    Want evidence of death panels? Look no further than those that previously served in the military. http://rt.com/usa/273475-us-veterans...ing-treatment/

    Is it a felony for them to go somewhere else or something?

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    • #287
      Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

      But he has insurance!!! (at least I hope he does!)
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      8 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18, TJL 1/22, BRL 6/23, NDL 2/24)
      2 granddaughters (EML 4/18, LCL 5/20)

      ?€Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.?€
      - Benjamin Franklin

      Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

      I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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      • #288
        Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        But he has insurance!!! (at least I hope he does!)
        FTFA: It’s not clear whether Fassler has insurance.

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        • #289
          Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

          From across the Pond - don't you dare f!ck with my mother, you bahstid Tories!

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...tted-will.html

          I don't blame him a bit.
          CCT '77 & '78
          4 kids
          8 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18, TJL 1/22, BRL 6/23, NDL 2/24)
          2 granddaughters (EML 4/18, LCL 5/20)

          ?€Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.?€
          - Benjamin Franklin

          Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

          I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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          • #290
            Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            But he has insurance!!! (at least I hope he does!)
            I'm curious, what point are you trying to make by posting this story in this thread?

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            • #291
              Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

              Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
              I'm curious, what point are you trying to make by posting this story in this thread?
              Putting people under insurance plans has done nothing to address the root cause of the issue in driving down the cost of medicine. If anything, it's drawn it higher because the pharmas know they can get it, especially with an artificial monopoly otherwise known as a "patent".

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              • #292
                Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
                I'm curious, what point are you trying to make by posting this story in this thread?
                Maybe he's realized the failings of a for profit insurance system?

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                • #293
                  Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                  Originally posted by Foxton View Post
                  Maybe he's realized the failings of a for profit insurance system?
                  Wrong profits to attack.

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                  • #294
                    Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                    Whelp, that time of year again. Just changed plan years:

                    Employee Contributions:
                    Medical Premium +7.7%
                    Vision Plan +6.9%
                    Dental Plan +4.9%

                    I assume my company's contributions went up at least this much, too. That cost curve can get bent, all right.

                    I'm sure this will solve all our problems. Here's a running list (current through July 16).

                    We're headed toward single payer after all...but that payer is going to be for profit and called Shield United Cigna Kaiser Independence Together (SUCK-IT).
                    If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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                    • #295
                      Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                      Cigna? Another casualty of merger fever.

                      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...re?tid=HP_more
                      CCT '77 & '78
                      4 kids
                      8 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18, TJL 1/22, BRL 6/23, NDL 2/24)
                      2 granddaughters (EML 4/18, LCL 5/20)

                      ?€Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.?€
                      - Benjamin Franklin

                      Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

                      I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                      • #296
                        Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                        Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                        Whelp, that time of year again. Just changed plan years:

                        Employee Contributions:
                        Medical Premium +7.7%
                        Vision Plan +6.9%
                        Dental Plan +4.9%

                        I assume my company's contributions went up at least this much, too. That cost curve can get bent, all right.

                        I'm sure this will solve all our problems. Here's a running list (current through July 16).

                        We're headed toward single payer after all...but that payer is going to be for profit and called Shield United Cigna Kaiser Independence Together (SUCK-IT).
                        That upwardly bent cost curve for me and my coworkers will be revealed the first week of September. I'm looking forward to that...
                        "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                        "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                        "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                        • #297
                          Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                          Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                          We're headed toward single payer after all...but that payer is going to be for profit and called Shield United Cigna Kaiser Independence Together (SUCK-IT).
                          At least there will be only one building to blow up.
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                          • #298
                            Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                            Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                            We're headed toward single payer after all...but that payer is going to be for profit and called Shield United Cigna Kaiser Independence Together (SUCK-IT).
                            Wow, I called that one eight years ago.

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                            • #299
                              Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                              Wow, I called that one eight years ago.
                              Well for a Marxist, feeding us to a multi-national pharmaceutical/insurance corporate behemoth sure is a bold move.
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                              • #300
                                Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Well for a Marxist, feeding us to a multi-national pharmaceutical/insurance corporate behemoth sure is a bold move.
                                The consolidation.

                                The government will take over the artificial monopoly, even if it is not in name. Two words: Federal Reserve.

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