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The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
CCT '77 & '78
4 kids
8 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18, TJL 1/22, BRL 6/23, NDL 2/24)
2 granddaughters (EML 4/18, LCL 5/20)
?€Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.?€
- Benjamin Franklin
Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).
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Continuing the discussion:
http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2...red_change.pdf
Uninsured rate down 35%. This for a law that's been active for 2 years and which approx half the states (all conservative governed) refuse to expand Medicare keeping 5M people needlessly uninsured.
Costs are down. CBO estimates health care will cost govt 600Bn less than projected before ACA went into effect. Kaiser using a 75/25 approx split between economy and ACA, which means $150B in savings. Or using buster's link from the previous thread about 40-45Bn.
http://www.vox.com/2015/3/9/8175277/...bsidies-budget
So I'll ask again to the non-knuckledragging conservatives out here (buster, Lynah, etc). By all independent accounts more people are insured. By all independent accounts the law is saving the govt money, from 40-150Bn just from the two estimates we've seen here.
What exactly is the problem?Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin
Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin
"I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."
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But our ER's getting less overcrowded? Are patient wait times going down? Can people get a (primary care) doctor?
The PPACA provided insurance, but if you can't get the care, so what?CCT '77 & '78
4 kids
8 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18, TJL 1/22, BRL 6/23, NDL 2/24)
2 granddaughters (EML 4/18, LCL 5/20)
?€Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.?€
- Benjamin Franklin
Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).
I want to live forever. So far, so good.
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Originally posted by joecct View PostBut our ER's getting less overcrowded? Are patient wait times going down? Can people get a (primary care) doctor?
The PPACA provided insurance, but if you can't get the care, so what?
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Originally posted by ericredaxe View PostYou are not suggesting that the solution to a shortage of Health Care Providers is to have fewer insured are you?
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Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View PostDoctors aren't practicing because of the amount of compliance bureaucracy they have to go through.In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.
Originally posted by burdI look at some people and I just know they do it doggy style. No way they're getting close to my kids.
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Originally posted by WisconsinWildcard View PostCitation?
As you say, joey and Flaggy, lets see some citations please.Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin
Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin
"I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."
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Originally posted by ericredaxe View PostYou are not suggesting that the solution to a shortage of Health Care Providers is to have fewer insured are you?
No - the solution is more doctors and health professionals. Just the Act does not seem to be addressing that problem as well as tort reform.
And Rover - its Joe, not Joey. OK?CCT '77 & '78
4 kids
8 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18, TJL 1/22, BRL 6/23, NDL 2/24)
2 granddaughters (EML 4/18, LCL 5/20)
?€Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.?€
- Benjamin Franklin
Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).
I want to live forever. So far, so good.
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This is all getting nonsensicalCode:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View PostThis is all getting nonsensicalCCT '77 & '78
4 kids
8 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18, TJL 1/22, BRL 6/23, NDL 2/24)
2 granddaughters (EML 4/18, LCL 5/20)
?€Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.?€
- Benjamin Franklin
Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).
I want to live forever. So far, so good.
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Very scientific...the NWO though requests more."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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