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    This is why I am not a big fan of "professional" hockey. People that make it up to the AHL level should know better.

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    He's like the third player in on the same guy and just smashes him. Cripes.
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    • #3
      Re: The cheapest of cheap shots

      check the comments to the right, they include a different angle that makes it look even worse, hopefully this link works

      http://blog.timesunion.com/hockey/an...incident/3084/
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      • #4
        Re: The cheapest of cheap shots

        I think that the offender could be criminally prosecuted for assault. I've actually read serious online discussions of whether fighting should be allowed in college hockey.

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        • #5
          Re: The cheapest of cheap shots

          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
          He's like the third player in on the same guy and just smashes him. Cripes.
          Well, you see, the first two of his teammates needed protection from that lone opposing player.

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          • #6
            Re: The cheapest of cheap shots

            Originally posted by Wholin1 View Post
            I think that the offender could be criminally prosecuted for assault. I've actually read serious online discussions of whether fighting should be allowed in college hockey.
            I think there are some valid arguments for allowing fighting in college hockey.

            Fighting is a part of the game at most elite levels. Coming in as the fourth guy in a fight and nailing someone to the boards from behind is not. Some of the comments on the paper's website are a little annoying. It's not as if this happens every single game. This guy definitely deserves a multiple game suspension, but it was an exception, not the norm.

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            • #7
              Re: The cheapest of cheap shots

              You can have your choice: fighting or stick work. You can't eliminate them both. I'd rather have them punching each other in the face than carving them up with the sticks.

              As for the hit, I wouldn't do the assualt charge, but he'd be in a suit and tie during the games for a long while.
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              • #8
                Re: The cheapest of cheap shots

                I see this as multiple elbows to the head, not punching.

                I love hockey, and prefer college hockey for many reasons, including the absence of scrums and this kind of stuff after every other whistle.

                they could stop it, the game would still be exciting and there would be fewer Bertuzzi incidents...it's not like the game is thriving in its current mindset...young kids aren't allowed to fight, college players can't fight...so how is fighting part of the game?...it is something that gets introduced once they are > 18 years old...it isn't part of the game...it is an add-on. (edit: it isn't part of the olympics, I assume it isn't part of the game in Finland, Sweden etc. but I don't watch any of their professional leagues is this solely an American feature?)

                maybe it was an extension of fistfights on frozen ponds back in the day but kids today aren't allowed to fight anywhere...if I got in a fight at school they told you to knock it off and clean the chalkboard, now you'd get arrested for assault. So fighting isn't part of the players lives until they get into professional hockey where a 'promoter' tells them that fans want to see fighting and it is part of the game and it can help you stick on as every team needs a few goons.

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                Last edited by pirate; 12-31-2009, 10:33 AM.
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                • #9
                  Re: The cheapest of cheap shots

                  I think fighting has a place in the game, fighting....as in two guys throwing some punches. This incident is stupidity, not fighting. It was cheap shot by a brainless goon.

                  As far as legal charges, that's a can of worms that doesn't need to be opened. This incident should be handled by the league and handled harshly....as in months suspension.

                  The skrimishes after the whistle are what need to be cleaned up. Whistle is blown play is dead, and the leagues and refs need to start making sure play ends there.

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                  • #10
                    Re: The cheapest of cheap shots

                    Originally posted by pirate View Post
                    (edit: it isn't part of the olympics, I assume it isn't part of the game in Finland, Sweden etc. but I don't watch any of their professional leagues is this solely an American feature?)
                    I can't speak for Finland, Sweden, etc. but I do know in the Russian leagues fighting is common. As it is in the QMJHL, OHL, WHL, and every "major" league in America.

                    Personally, I hate fighting in hockey. I much prefer the Olympic style and the college game. While I don't think the dude needs to be in jail or have assault charges against him, a lengthy suspension, possibly for the year, should be in order.
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                    • #11
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                      Oh, I thought this thread was about the USCHO Poster's Game in Denver when shrader took the wicked two-handed slash across the back.

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by brianvf View Post
                        Oh, I thought this thread was about the USCHO Poster's Game in Denver when shrader took the wicked two-handed slash across the back.

                        And I was wondering why a Sioux thread was in Cafe instead of DI.








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                        • #13
                          Re: The cheapest of cheap shots

                          Originally posted by Hammer View Post
                          You can have your choice: fighting or stick work. You can't eliminate them both. I'd rather have them punching each other in the face than carving them up with the sticks.

                          As for the hit, I wouldn't do the assualt charge, but he'd be in a suit and tie during the games for a long while.
                          This is what I tell anti-fighting people in hockey. Anyone, I mean anyone, who has played even spirited pickup hockey SHOULD be able to appreciate this.

                          This guy should be suspended hardcore though, they are absolutely right, this is assault. I wouldn't go so far as criminal charges, but perhaps a rest of a season suspension would send the correct message across here.
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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by goldy_331 View Post
                            And I was wondering why a Sioux thread was in Cafe instead of DI.
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                            • #15
                              Re: The cheapest of cheap shots

                              If I digress, I apologize. But never having played the game though a long time fan, what is it about hockey that makes fighting acceptable? Is it "tradition" or is there something about the basic history and origins of the game? I'm thinking of it in comparison with other mainstream sports in the N. America such as MLB where any kind of fight is noteworthy only because of its rarity and usual comedic overtones. I'm not necessarily against fighting, just trying to figure it out.

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