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Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
Originally posted by joecct View PostI'm 59. If my parents raised me today the way they raised me back in the 50's and 60's they'd be arrested.
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Originally posted by jmh View PostHow much tin foil does it take to make one of those hats, anyway?
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
Originally posted by jmh View PostHow much tin foil does it take to make one of those hats, anyway?
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View PostThe whole idea is that the concept of family is to be destroyed and children are to become property of government. Courtesy of the NWO.
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
I wonder what I would be charged with after the CPS worker removed the paperwork from her *** and spent a few days with a funny walk.
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
The whole idea is that the concept of family is to be destroyed and children are to become property of government. Courtesy of the NWO.
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
Originally posted by joecct View PostI'm 59. If my parents raised me today the way they raised me back in the 50's and 60's they'd be arrested.
Case in pointShe [the mother who practices "free range parenting"] added: “Abductions are extremely rare. Car accidents are not. The number one cause of death for children of their age is a car accident.”
Incidentally, a couple of friends from college live in that neighborhood and bring their kids to the same playground, and one called it "a ridiculous overreach by CPS".
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
Originally posted by Bob Gray View PostAs a current foster parent, I won't comment on my experiences.
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostI understand. I was responding to the quote about CPS being enabled to act without a court document, not about the case at hand.
When I lived in MA (late 80s) there was at least one (and I think more than one) high profile case where CPS made repeated visits to a home and, despite evaluating the situation as dangerous, either did not try or were not able to secure a judge's order, and in the interim the child died from abuse. Everybody then proceeded to go bonkers and a review found there actually were a lot of restrictions on CPS' ability to act. I am therefore always a little suspicious when people trot out the idea that the Orwellian CPS is going to steal your children in the dead of night because you didn't make them salute your wall-height framed photo of Fuhrer Obama or somesuch.
I also had a lot of contact with CPS during my time as a foster parent because of some rather unsavory aspects of the child's former home. The people who actually did the CPS grunt work always struck me as extremely aware of the destabilization of families caused by any intervention they did, or even their very presence, and bent over backwards to follow the rules and not overreact. Anecdotal and inadmissible as evidence of larger social forces, of course, but that predisposes me to view them favorably.
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Originally posted by Kepler View Posta review found there actually were a lot of checks on CPS' ability act.
I have a 9 and 6 year old, and I have to say I would feel very very confident about their ability to safely walk or ride their bikes home from one of the parks in our town.
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
Originally posted by Bob Gray View PostFrom the info in the article, I don't think this would constitute an immediate or dire threat. I'm not saying you're saying it is, just that I don't think CPS would reasonably reach that level here based on available info.
When I lived in MA (late 80s) there was at least one (and I think more than one) high profile case where CPS made repeated visits to a home and, despite evaluating the situation as dangerous, either did not try or were not able to secure a judge's order, and in the interim the child died from abuse. Everybody then proceeded to go bonkers and a review found there actually were a lot of restrictions on CPS' ability to act. I am therefore always a little suspicious when people trot out the idea that the Orwellian CPS is going to steal your children in the dead of night because you didn't make them salute your wall-height framed photo of Fuhrer Obama or somesuch.
I also had a lot of contact with CPS during my time as a foster parent because of some rather unsavory aspects of the child's former home. The people who actually did the CPS grunt work always struck me as extremely aware of the destabilization of families caused by any intervention they did, or even their very presence, and bent over backwards to follow the rules and not overreact. Anecdotal and inadmissible as evidence of larger social forces, of course, but that predisposes me to view them favorably.Last edited by Kepler; 01-15-2015, 10:46 AM.
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
Originally posted by Kepler View PostIIRC, CPS can remove children from a home temporarily, on their own judgment, if it's a situation with immediate and dire threat. While I'm not wild about CPS overreach in general, that seems like a reasonable position.
I'm sure there is a time limit after which there has to be a court order or the children have to go back.
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
Originally posted by JF_Gophers View PostCPS is allowed to take children without a court document of some kind? There's a law that needs to be fixed.
I'm sure there is a time limit after which there has to be a court order or the children have to go back.
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Re: Parenting 101 - Helicopters, Drones, & the 6 o'clock whistle
CPS is allowed to take children without a court document of some kind? There's a law that needs to be fixed.
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