The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

[Kepler]

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This is great.

[FlagDUDE08]

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Just looked at my e-mail, and Tea Party Patriots are claiming victory.

[LynahFan]

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"Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."

[bronconick]

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As far as I can tell, the few remaining sane conservatives are groveling for Ryan to "save" them

[joecct]

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Best suggestions for House Speaker, keeping in mind it doesn't need to be an actual member of the House:

1) Michelle Bachmann
2) Benjamin Netanyahu
3) Revolving chair as every GOP Member gets to be Speaker for a day on their birthday.

See Post #718

[Kepler]

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OK, now it's serious. The GOP nursery school was amusing when it was only hurting people, but now it's threatening money.

[Rover]

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As far as I can tell, the few remaining sane conservatives are groveling for Ryan to "save" them

Oddly enough he's probably the only guy who could get them out of this immediate crisis but then the problem remains. If he cuts deals with the WH he's a sell out. If not he blows up the country's budget and credit.

Best thing these @ ss clowns could do is put off any changes until after budget and debt limit hike agreed upon. That way John Boner can make a deal with the Dems, get all of this stuff off their plate, and then the House can go back to being useless for all of 2016 until the elections.

[ScoobyDoo]

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OK, now it's serious. The GOP nursery school was amusing when it was only hurting people, but now it's threatening money.

Love the headline.

'This is the political equivalent of a dumpster fire.'

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/1...#ixzz3o4ntfR85

Think I used that exact phrase a few times already.

[FlagDUDE08]

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Oddly enough he's probably the only guy who could get them out of this immediate crisis but then the problem remains. If he cuts deals with the WH he's a sell out. If not he blows up the country's budget and credit.

Best thing these @ ss clowns could do is put off any changes until after budget and debt limit hike agreed upon. That way John Boner can make a deal with the Dems, get all of this stuff off their plate, and then the House can go back to being useless for all of 2016 until the elections.

You're missing the point. Any debt limit increase shows fiscal irresponsibility. The Taxed Enough Already party "mandate", which I think we can agree exists because that's the movement that brought the GOP back into power in Congress, is one of being fiscally conservative and making do with what you have. In effect, they want to set a good example for citizens that want leadership when it comes to how to deal with finances.

In both cases where this happened (i.e. 2010 and 2014), the establishment GOP has thrown a fit. Taxed Enough Already gave in the first time, and it cost them the Presidential election in 2012 (regardless of what you believe about Bilderberg). This time, they're more wise, and know not to be run over by the establishment GOP. McCarthy wisely backed off because he knew T.E.A. wasn't going to accept the establishment. Boner's throwing a fit and cancelling the speaker election because he doesn't truly want to give up the establishment, because he knows the New World Order plan is barely hanging on with the right wing (something the Bush family had good control of, given they are part of it), and is doing everything he can to make sure it stays. Could this open the country up to another false flag attack that will re-establish the establishment?

[Kepler]

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If he cuts deals with the WH he's a sell out. If not he blows up the country's budget and credit.

This is it exactly. And who's the only answer to that? Somebody whose political career is over.

[Kepler]

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You're missing the point. Any debt limit increase shows fiscal irresponsibility.

No, NO, NO!!!

This is money already obligated! Raising the debt ceiling is not spending. God, this needs to be engraved on every conservative's gun so he can see it when he's fondling it.

Limiting your spending is fiscally responsible. Not paying your godd-mned credit card is just being a deadbeat!

[dxmnkd316]

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No, NO, NO!!!

This is money already obligated! Raising the debt ceiling is not spending. God, this needs to be engraved on every conservative's gun so he can see it when he's fondling it.

Limiting your spending is fiscally responsible. Not paying your godd-mned credit card is just being a deadbeat!

This.

[ScoobyDoo]

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No, NO, NO!!!

This is money already obligated! Raising the debt ceiling is not spending. God, this needs to be engraved on every conservative's gun so he can see it when he's fondling it.

Limiting your spending is fiscally responsible. Not paying your godd-mned credit card is just being a deadbeat!

THIS!!!!!!!!

BOOM goes the dynamite.

[dxmnkd316]

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Has a Speaker ever been from the minority party of the House?

I know every Speaker has been from the House (despite there being no requirement for him or her to come from the House)

[Rover]

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Two things should happen:

1) GOP should split in two as they're too divided to function as a cohesive unit. This would turn the Congress into the UK House of Commons, with two main parties but several others that can crop up and make a difference in a coalition if needed. The danger of this is if you turn into Italy or Israel, where there's too many parties with narrow interests but nobody can get a majority on their own.

In the event #1 doesn't happen (and its highly unlikely), then

2) Elect an uber-nutter as Speaker (Goehmert, Chaffetz, Blackburn, whoever). Then, the dwindling # of moderates left in the GOP need to unite with Dems on discharge petitions to get House business done. This would merely require 20 of them out of 240+. Knuckledraggers can spend all day passing go nowhere legislation with control of House leadership, while real business gets done without them. Yes, it takes some coordination but its high time somebody on the right takes a stand. I keep hearing from pundidiots and many a USCHO poster that a handful of crazies are highjacking the process. Their willingness to take this legal action which has precedent would help prove, or disprove, that point.