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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Jack, Malcolm, Martin, Bobby, ... Liz?

    Wonder if the owl still has his claws?
    I've thought for a while that if Liz starts winning public opinion, she'll be politically neutralized. As history tells us, the safest way is to put somebody in an important sounding job that has little impact - hence the Vice Presidency.

    At least she'll never win the Throttlebottom Award.
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      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      I've thought for a while that if Liz starts winning public opinion, she'll be politically neutralized. As history tells us, the safest way is to put somebody in an important sounding job that has little impact - hence the Vice Presidency.

      At least she'll never win the Throttlebottom Award.
      I never understood why people think the VP side of a ticket is worth a lick. There's only been a handful of times in our history (five times?) where the VP has been a factor in our nation's leadership with the president kicking the bucket while still in office (and Nixon's bit). The idea of balancing a ticket is just absurd to me. Guy at the top of the ticket is a raging lunatic, but you really like the VP candidate, what good will that really do you?
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      • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

        Has a bill where the VP broke a tie ever gotten vetoed?
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        • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
          Has a bill where the VP broke a tie ever gotten vetoed?
          That is a great question. The only time it would make sense was in the first few administrations when the Veep was the guy who finished second in EV and could be a political opponent of the president.

          Edit: tie breaker votes have only been cast 225 times. Adams did so 29 times as Washington's vice president; Washington may have vetoed one of them, though had only 2 during his entire 8 years. There have been about 2500 vetoes.
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          • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

            Always knew the blood suckers were big around here!

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            • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              That is a great question. The only time it would make sense was in the first few administrations when the Veep was the guy who finished second in EV and could be a political opponent of the president.

              Edit: tie breaker votes have only been cast 225 times. Adams did so 29 times as Washington's vice president; Washington may have vetoed one of them, though had only 2 during his entire 8 years. There have been about 2500 vetoes.
              Thanks. But 225 times? I never realized it was that rare. A veto is ten times more common.

              I figured it was from the infancy of the country as well. Either that or when we lost a president in office.

              Can you imagine today if we had a VP tiebreaker get vetoed? Man, that would make for brilliant television. It would be something out of House of Cards.
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              • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                I never understood why people think the VP side of a ticket is worth a lick. There's only been a handful of times in our history (five times?) where the VP has been a factor in our nation's leadership with the president kicking the bucket while still in office (and Nixon's bit). The idea of balancing a ticket is just absurd to me. Guy at the top of the ticket is a raging lunatic, but you really like the VP candidate, what good will that really do you?

                I think its rare for a VP candidate to swing a state. However a good VP pick can help give a ticket a little bit of a better perception. You can also get some good press in the middle of the campaign which is always nice.
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                • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                  Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                  Has a bill where the VP broke a tie ever gotten vetoed?
                  Probably was more likely prior to the 12th Amendment, when the person with the 2nd most electoral votes was VP and there were no "running mates". BTW, it is still technically possible, based upon that amendment, that you could have a President from one party and a VP from another, especially if there's a deadlock (House chooses President, Senate chooses VP in a tiebreak).

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                  • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/02/us...773522000&_r=0

                    In all sorts of awesomeness Rand Paul made Itch McConnell (aka Turtle Boy) look like an idiot yesterday. And they're from the same state.
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                    • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/02/us...773522000&_r=0

                      In all sorts of awesomeness Rand Paul made Itch McConnell (aka Turtle Boy) look like an idiot yesterday. And they're from the same state.

                      I have to give credit where credit is due. Even if he's purely doing this to bolster his campaign, it was a ballsy move to own the expiration of the Patriot Act. The guy is still nuts, but he's now made it safe to question the Patriot Act without having your patriotism questioned unless a move is underway to start doing that now...
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                      • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                        Originally posted by Rover View Post
                        I have to give credit where credit is due. Even if he's purely doing this to bolster his campaign, it was a ballsy move to own the expiration of the Patriot Act. The guy is still nuts, but he's now made it safe to question the Patriot Act without having your patriotism questioned unless a move is underway to start doing that now...
                        You do know that there will be another attack within the next few months (false flag of course), and Rand Paul will be blamed for it based on his desire to expire the PATRIOT Act.

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                        • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                          Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                          You do know that there will be another attack within the next few months (false flag of course), and Rand Paul will be blamed for it based on his desire to expire the PATRIOT Act.
                          I can never keep track of who's running the conspiracy. If its Obama, why would he want an attack on US soil?
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                          • Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                            Originally posted by Rover View Post
                            I can never keep track of who's running the conspiracy. If its Obama, why would he want an attack on US soil?
                            Lindsey and McCain are. They're the Hawks. Itch and Boner are in on it.
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                              Originally posted by Rover View Post
                              I can never keep track of who's running the conspiracy. If its Obama, why would he want an attack on US soil?
                              I'd try to explain it to you, but you're so gaga brainwashed over him that any efforts would be futile.

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                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                                Lindsey and McCain are. They're the Hawks. Itch and Boner are in on it.
                                Actually, it's Yellen and the Federal Reserve, as well as the "assistants" of folks that seem to always get either elected or appointed to office, such as Hillary. Don't forget the Rothschilds, who funded both World Wars.

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