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  • #346
    Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Yes, finance, insurance and real estate is just chock full of ACLU lawyers...
    There's also the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.

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    • #347
      Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

      Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
      It still affects the first $106,000 of the rich person's income. My point still stands.
      I think you're smart enough to know that we're talking about the directness of fiscal policies. However, your point is taken, so here's how to fix that:

      1-50k: current tax rate times .5
      50-100k: current tax rate times .75
      100-200k: no change
      200-500k: current tax rate times 1.25
      500k-1M: current tax rate times 1.5
      1-5M: current tax rate times 1.75
      5M+: current tax rate times 2
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      • #348
        Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        I think you're smart enough to know that we're talking about the directness of fiscal policies. However, your point is taken, so here's how to fix that:

        1-50k: current tax rate times .5
        50-100k: current tax rate times .75
        100-200k: no change
        200-500k: current tax rate times 1.25
        500k-1M: current tax rate times 1.5
        1-5M: current tax rate times 1.75
        5M+: current tax rate times 2
        I would think an ivy league graduate would understand that "seldom" is a long way from "never". But, taking your point at face value, if your goal is to go after the 1% and not the small business folk, then you may want to re-think your policy choices, because who you're really hurting as a result of this is the small business owners, because they're the ones in those higher brackets. The 1% are all either stashing their earnings away pre-tax (retirement accounts and other benefits) or they're donating it to non-profit "charities" that they own, which are the vehicles behind the majority of their influence. Ever wonder how the NFL, which makes billions every year, is considered "non-profit"? They use the Hall of Fame as a temporary tax haven.

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        • #349
          Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

          Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
          Ever wonder how the NFL, which makes billions every year, is considered "non-profit"? They use the Hall of Fame as a temporary tax haven.
          The NFL has dropped its non-profit status as of last month. It doesn't take anything away from your point, because it's quite true, but you just chose a bad example.
          "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

          "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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          • #350
            Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

            Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
            I would think an ivy league graduate would understand that "seldom" is a long way from "never". But, taking your point at face value, if your goal is to go after the 1% and not the small business folk, then you may want to re-think your policy choices, because who you're really hurting as a result of this is the small business owners, because they're the ones in those higher brackets. The 1% are all either stashing their earnings away pre-tax (retirement accounts and other benefits) or they're donating it to non-profit "charities" that they own, which are the vehicles behind the majority of their influence. Ever wonder how the NFL, which makes billions every year, is considered "non-profit"? They use the Hall of Fame as a temporary tax haven.
            The 1% use small business owners as hostages, just like ADM uses family farms and the Mil-Ind complex uses the troops. You and I can work on other policies that disentangle them.

            Bravo on the faux populist demagoguery of "I would think an Ivy..." BTW. That's at least the third time you've used it in a month. Wasn't it Santorum who said "we will never have the smart people on our side"?
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            • #351
              Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              The 1% use small business owners as hostages, just like ADM uses family farms and the Mil-Ind complex uses the troops. You and I can work on other policies that disentangle them.

              Bravo on the faux populist demagoguery of "I would think an Ivy..." BTW. That's at least the third time you've used it in a month. Wasn't it Santorum who said "we will never have the smart people on our side"?
              The ivy quibble had nothing to do with populism, but rather the snobbishness associated thereof. Go off and give DC the secret handshake.

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              • #352
                Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                The NFL has dropped its non-profit status as of last month. It doesn't take anything away from your point, because it's quite true, but you just chose a bad example.
                Have a source? A quick perusal on a search engine isn't showing anything. The closest it shows is "considering voluntarily dropping 501(c)(6)", but nothing further about it actually happening.

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                • #353
                  Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                  Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                  Have a source? A quick perusal on a search engine isn't showing anything. The closest it shows is "considering voluntarily dropping 501(c)(6)", but nothing further about it actually happening.
                  It was announced on the TV. I'm sure it's accurate.
                  **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                  Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                  Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                  • #354
                    Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                    It was announced on the TV. I'm sure it's accurate.
                    So was Bin Laden's "death", but we know that didn't happen the way they talk about it.

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                    • #355
                      Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                      Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                      Have a source? A quick perusal on a search engine isn't showing anything. The closest it shows is "considering voluntarily dropping 501(c)(6)", but nothing further about it actually happening.
                      http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/b...ping-them-out/

                      http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...-taxes/391742/

                      http://fortune.com/2015/04/29/nfl-tax-exempt-status/

                      http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/29/sp...atus.html?_r=0

                      Should I go on? If it's not taken effect already, it will shortly. The NFL is dropping or has dropped its 501(c)(6) status.
                      "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                      "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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                      • #356
                        Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                        Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                        http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/b...ping-them-out/

                        http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...-taxes/391742/

                        http://fortune.com/2015/04/29/nfl-tax-exempt-status/

                        http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/29/sp...atus.html?_r=0

                        Should I go on? If it's not taken effect already, it will shortly. The NFL is dropping or has dropped its 501(c)(6) status.
                        You only need to post one of them. Something tells me the govenrment will still fund the stadiums, and the announcers will still push gun control.

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                        • #357
                          Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                          Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                          The ivy quibble had nothing to do with populism, but rather the snobbishness associated thereof. Go off and give DC the secret handshake.
                          If there's a secret handshake and a network for us to get everything we want, nobody ever taught it to me. I want my unearned privilege, dammit!

                          The image you have of the Ivies hasn't been true since the 1970s. We've been slogging through the filth with the rest of the proles ever since.
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                          • #358
                            Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                            Elizabeth Warren says how about a history lesson on trade, Barack?

                            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...ushpmg00000013
                            **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                            Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                            • #359
                              Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                              Elizabeth Warren says how about a history lesson on trade, Barack?

                              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...ushpmg00000013
                              Vice President for sure! She's upsetting the apple cart!
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                              • #360
                                Re: The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

                                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                                She's upsetting the apple cart!
                                Jack, Malcolm, Martin, Bobby, ... Liz?

                                Wonder if the owl still has his claws?
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