The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

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Harry Reid tweeted this yesterday.

By ousting a good man like Speaker Boehner -- someone who understood the art of compromise -- the party of Eisenhower and Reagan is no more.

Wot!?!?!?

[St. Clown]

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Harry Reid tweeted this yesterday.


Wot!?!?!?

Two possible reasons. First, he may have actually liked Boehner, and appreciated his company despite their differences. Also, you look at his caucus, and Boehner really did, from my point of view, temper some of their more loony positions.

Second, he wants to give the GOP pause before they select their next Speaker, regardless of his actual thoughts on Boehner or his time as Speaker.

[Kepler]

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Harry Reid tweeted this yesterday.

Wot!?!?!?

It's what you say when somebody retires. People said nice stuff about Newt went he went, and Newt was universally despised even by his own conference.

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I don't think Boehner stood up to the derps because their platform was part and parcel to his own. They will either wise up and go with a strong willed moderate or go full blown batchit crazy with his replacement. He will not be a replica of the Boneman.

If they go with full blown Taxed Enough Already party, it shows the party has a backbone and wants to be rooted in the base that has carried their beliefs in the last 6 or so years. If they go full blown illuminati, basically Boner II, then it shows that the GOP is doomed, and there truly is no difference between the two parties when it comes to the freedom of citizens.

[Rover]

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If they go with full blown Taxed Enough Already party, it shows the party has a backbone and wants to be rooted in the base that has carried their beliefs in the last 6 or so years. If they go full blown illuminati, basically Boner II, then it shows that the GOP is doomed, and there truly is no difference between the two parties when it comes to the freedom of citizens.

I'm completely on board with the Goopers choosing a nutter for House Speaker. Old drunks like the Boner represent a country club conservatism that no longer reflects the base of the party. Get someone who speaks the language of the people who make up the party caucus. McCarthy is going to have the same problem in a couple of months. A younger, less weepy but otherwise identical version of The Impotent Boner will not be an improvement.

[ScoobyDoo]

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“I think it signals the crazies have taken over the party, taken over to the party that you can remove a speaker of the House who’s second in line to be president, a constitutional officer in the middle of his term with no allegations of impropriety, a person who’s honest and doing his job. This has never happened before in our country,” [Representative Peter] King said in an interview on CNN. “He could have stayed on.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-rep-p...over-the-party

I think Representative King forgot to remind everyone that he's one of the crazies.

The whole Republican Party is a clown show. They deserve Fiorina representing them.

[St. Clown]

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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-rep-p...over-the-party

I think Representative King forgot to remind everyone that he's one of the crazies.

The whole Republican Party is a clown show. They deserve Fiorina representing them.

Who is Fiorina representing? She's never won an election.

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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-rep-p...over-the-party

I think Representative King forgot to remind everyone that he's one of the crazies.

The whole Republican Party is a clown show. They deserve Fiorina representing them.

Agreed. I blame guys like King and Boner more than the nutters. At least the loonies are consistent. Establishment dinosaurs thought they could play footsie under the table with the nuts (Birtherism, etc), but then they'd be there to back the corporate agenda. Too bad its come back to bite them.

[Kepler]

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I think Representative King forgot to remind everyone that he's one of the crazies.

OTOH, when the guy who holds HUAC hearings to criminalize being Muslim says you're crazy...

I have to think we've reached the very bottom. The age old dream of giving a megaphone to everybody, no matter how ignorant, stupid or irresponsible has been achieved. From now on it should get slowly better. Right? The novelty of the nutters will wear off and average people will begin to ignore them. Imperceptibly they'll lose market share in the forum of ideas, and eventually they'll be pushed back under their rocks.

Right?

[ScoobyDoo]

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Who is Fiorina representing? She's never won an election.

You represent the party when you're at the top of the polls. It may not last long but for now she's out there and is a face of the GOP along with Carson and Trump.

Let the implosion continue.

“McConnell needs to resign!!” Louisiana GOP Chairman Roger Villere wrote in a Facebook posting.

Mr. Villere isn’t just any Republican. He’s the longest-serving state GOP chairman in the nation, with 12 years on the job, and is the vice chairman of the Republican National Committee, the GOP’s national governing body. He also serves on the RNC’s executive committee that makes decisions alongside Chairman Reince Priebus.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...majority-lead/

Boner's Gone now get rid of the Turtle.

[Kepler]

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What are these people going to do when McCarthy follows Boehner's tactics? A fair number of them have to be itching to start a third party. They should be encouraged.

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OTOH, when the guy who holds HUAC hearings to criminalize being Muslim says you're crazy...

I have to think we've reached the very bottom. The age old dream of giving a megaphone to everybody, no matter how ignorant, stupid or irresponsible has been achieved. From now on it should get slowly better. Right? The novelty of the nutters will wear off and average people will begin to ignore them. Imperceptibly they'll lose market share in the forum of ideas, and eventually they'll be pushed back under their rocks.

Right?

You just go on believing that Kep! Are you SURE you don't work for the media?

Regarding 3rd party for nutters - why should they? Why go through all that trouble to set up your own apparatus in 50 states, when you're the majority of an existing major party? Just kick the few remaining Establishment dinosaurs out and you're running the show. Already they're going for a House takeover. How much longer do Itch and Cornyn - two old school fossils - have with Ted Cruz pretty much running the show over there. Remember - you only need half the GOP Senate to be Majority Leader. If there's not 27 Teabaggers in the Senate by now, I'll bet they're real close.

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Already they're going for a House takeover.

Are you referring to Scalise? He just got kicked in a very sensitive spot.

It's interesting that the TPers aren't even mounting a challenge to McCarthy. They're going to come out of this "coup" with nothing.

By the way, there are 16 TPers in the Senate. To have half of half plus one they need 26. Plus they get no more elections to run against the Scary Black Man.

I think they blew it.

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Are you referring to Scalise? He just got kicked in a very sensitive spot.

It's interesting that the TPers aren't even mounting a challenge to McCarthy. They're going to come out of this "coup" with nothing.

By the way, there are 16 TPers in the Senate. To have half of half plus one they need 26. Plus they get no more elections to run against the Scary Black Man.

I think they blew it.

No point in going after McCarthy now. Let him negotiate the budget extension in Dec (I believe despite what you posted the "plan" is still a two month extension) and then watch the fireworks begin.

Only 16 in the Senate? I'm surprised. Put it another way, who's clearly not aligned with the TP even if they aren't officially in the group (people like Toomey). Collins, Murkowski, McCain, Flake, Hatch, Cochrane, Corker, Alexander, McConnell, Ayotte. All these people have either already been targeted or sit in states too blue to get away with too close of an association. Ayotte is gone after next year. Collins won't stay forever and I doubt her seat goes to a raving lunatic LePage notwithstanding. Who else am I missing? A guy like Cornyn or Isaacson can clearly switch their stripes as needed. People like Sessions or Vitter may pre-date the movement but they're an ideological fit.

[Kepler]

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No point in going after McCarthy now. Let him negotiate the budget extension in Dec (I believe despite what you posted the "plan" is still a two month extension) and then watch the fireworks begin.

A two-month extension would align it with the debt ceiling deadline. I think that would be foolish for either side: the anarchists lose a chance to pose for the cameras twice, and the establishment types not only give the crazies the plunger but also the dynamite. Their Wall Street puppet-masters aint gonna like that.