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  • #931
    Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Consensual rape is my favorite rape

    I can't see why it wouldn't be?
    **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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    • #932
      Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

      I wish I could say that I think these pols are just trying to "own the libs" with dumb comments like this, but the fact is they really are that willfully ignorant in almost all cases.

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      • #933
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        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
        I wish I could say that I think these pols are just trying to "own the libs" with dumb comments like this, but the fact is they really are that willfully ignorant in almost all cases.
        The date rape reference is priceless. Like it's just ok to rape your date because, well, you have needs.
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        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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        • #934
          Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

          I think by "consensual rape" they really mean "statutory rape"...

          Still a stupid comment...
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          • #935
            Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

            Let's assume Roe were to be overturned. Realistically, what do folks suppose the odds are that in our lifetimes, Dred Scott gets relitigated as the right of red states to demand extradition of their citizens who travel to blue states to have abortions? How does states' rights come into play here? Or is this something like with pot where it would have to be explicitly illegal at the federal level and/or defined by the feds that it is criminal common law that abortion is a form of murder?

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            • #936
              Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

              I don’t know, but the first time a state demands extradition for an abortion to try that person for murder, it will be one of the more tenuous times since the 1860s. It could be incredibly fractious with a lot of ugly repercussions.

              And part of me says “good”. The red states will fail without the blue.
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              • #937
                Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                The WaPo had a great opp Ed today about when life begins. Can we insure fetuses now? Do we celebrate conception vs birthday? Are fetuses counted in a census? Do they get their own healthcare? Are miscarriages counted for tax purposes? Can you jail a pregnant woman if you’re forcing a second person to be incarcerated?

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                • #938
                  Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                  Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                  The WaPo had a great opp Ed today about when life begins. Can we insure fetuses now? Do we celebrate conception vs birthday? Are fetuses counted in a census? Do they get their own healthcare? Are miscarriages counted for tax purposes? Can you jail a pregnant woman if you’re forcing a second person to be incarcerated?
                  mookie would like to count them as dependents on tax returns!!!! extra child tax credit!!!!
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                  • #939
                    Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                    The WaPo had a great opp Ed today about when life begins. Can we insure fetuses now? Do we celebrate conception vs birthday? Are fetuses counted in a census? Do they get their own healthcare? Are miscarriages counted for tax purposes? Can you jail a pregnant woman if you’re forcing a second person to be incarcerated?
                    Isn't "personhood" grand?

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                    • #940
                      Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                      Isn't "personhood" grand?
                      Spoiler alert- conservatives will only consider it a person when it punishes the woman. It won’t count for anything else.

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                      • #941
                        Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                        Conservatives who cheer sheriffs who defy laws will surely cheer this too, right?

                        https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...-women-who-get

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                        • #942
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                          Cross Louisiana off your destination list. They're about to have a bill themselves...

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                          • #943
                            Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                            “A good compromise is when both parties are dissatisfied”

                            ― Larry David
                            I got into a long discussion about abortion while having a few cocktails with my youngest daughter. She is of the thought that abortion should be readily available regardless. I am of the thought that with current birth control methods, elective abortion should be available but difficult to obtain and hardly ever performed. Here was our compromise:

                            1. All insurances will cover birth control (including IUD, "Morning-after pill", Norplants, BCPs, etc.) Condoms are considered a method of disease prevention not birth control. Tax breaks will be given to companies & providers that provide free birth control to any uninsured women.
                            2. A fetal evacuation/extraction may be performed on ANY women whose life is endangered by pregnancy or a victim of rape (this includes incest). These procedures are not considered an abortion.
                            3. A women may choose to have a first trimester abortion from a qualified provider for any reason.
                            4. All insurances would be required to cover the costs of the first lifetime abortion to 100% of the typical surgical coverage (i.e. If a women's insurance covers 50% or 80% or all of the cost of an appendectomy, it would be the same for an abortion). Second lifetime abortion would be covered at 50% unless women voluntarily agrees to strict birth control methods which would change coverage to 100%. Third abortion would be 25%
                            coverage unless women voluntarily agrees to strict birth control methods which would change coverage to 50%. Fourth abortion, hope your bank account is full. (Please note that medical contraindications to all available birth control methods would void the
                            decrease in coverage)
                            5. Second or third trimester abortions immediately add an additional lifetime abortion to a women's record (e.g. a first time second trimester abortions would be considered the women's second lifetime abortion and so on) unless valid rational can be provided (e.g.
                            Medical condition prohibits surgery in first trimester,
                            no available provider, etc. "I was too busy" or "I forgot" won't fly).
                            6. Failure of documented properly utilized birth control methods that result in a first trimester abortion will not be counted on a women's lifetime abortion record.
                            7. All insurances will cover 100% of delivery/prenatal/postnatal costs should baby be carried to term and put up for adoption.

                            By NO means is this a perfect plan and it clearly is not built to allow for every contingency out there (we were, after all, sucking down the cocktails). However, it could seemingly cut down on the number of abortions while keeping them readily available. She wasn't totally pleased with the idea but neither was I. Regardless, it will never happen. Both sides use this issue to fire up their base so any compromise is out of the question.

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                            • #944
                              Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                              My plan is simpler: get government out of vaginas that aren’t theirs.

                              Either that or all men when born get mandatory but reversible vasectomies. Upon completion of an evaluation of their competency to father a child, insurance will cover 100% of the costs.
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                              Originally posted by SanTropez
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                              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
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                              Originally posted by Kepler
                              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                              • #945
                                Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                                My 82 year-old grandmother, slowly losing her battle with dementia, still managed to have the best take on this last night. She can't quite form the sentences right anymore, but the gist of her reaction to the news of the Alabama law was, "It's a private decision, and it should be left at that."

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