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  • #61
    Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

    Originally posted by FreshFish View Post

    "Life" begins when the first cell division occurs after a fertilized egg implants in the uterine wall. That is just basic biology.
    Ugh... for **** sake.
    Division occurs well before implantation. That is "basic biology." The easiest way to think of it is that life is a continuous process.
    In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.

    Originally posted by burd
    I look at some people and I just know they do it doggy style. No way they're getting close to my kids.

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    • #62
      Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

      Oh ****.
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      • #63
        Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
        Oh ****.
        LOL. Badger halftime left me bored.
        In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.

        Originally posted by burd
        I look at some people and I just know they do it doggy style. No way they're getting close to my kids.

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        • #64
          Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

          http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/3942

          Peter Smith's "gradualist" answer, IMHO, reflects "main street America's" thinking pretty accurately.
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          • #65
            Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

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            • #66
              Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
              Nonsensical. You can remove the unborn child from the mother's womb to save the mother's life without killing the child in the process. Think "partial-birth abortion" except extract the child all the way instead of puncturing its skull when it is halfway out and then sucking out its brains with a vacuum cleaner.
              An attempt to move this over here. If we go by the 20 week mark, in the vast majority of "late-term abortions," the fetus is not viable even with the best medical care. Going with a 27 week mark as viability, they still have very poor outcomes even with vast resource allocation (I use that to convey the point that "everything" is attempted, not that it is a waste of resources). I am not sure you have a good grasp of developmental biology given your prior statement (below).

              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
              Here's the logical distinction that trips up most people.

              "Life" begins when the first cell division occurs after a fertilized egg implants in the uterine wall. That is just basic biology.
              I really do not think the imagery you provide is useful to the discussion. Most medical procedures could be described in that way and it only adds to the entirely normal human visceral response, but does little to add to precision and clarity of the discussion.
              In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.

              Originally posted by burd
              I look at some people and I just know they do it doggy style. No way they're getting close to my kids.

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              • #67
                Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                The vast vast vast majority of this issue would go away if people just had responsible sex, or better yet, had no sex until marriage. I do not understand what is so hard about either option.
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                • #68
                  Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                  Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                  The vast vast vast majority of this issue would go away if people just had responsible sex, or better yet, had no sex until marriage. I do not understand what is so hard about either option.
                  Poor sexual education, a tidal wave of hormones, and taboo.

                  Edit: I also agree with the first sentence (except maybe the "or better yet" part).
                  Last edited by WisconsinWildcard; 01-14-2015, 12:50 PM.
                  In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.

                  Originally posted by burd
                  I look at some people and I just know they do it doggy style. No way they're getting close to my kids.

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                  • #69
                    Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                    Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                    The vast vast vast majority of this issue would go away if people just had responsible sex, or better yet, had no sex until marriage. I do not understand what is so hard about either option.
                    16-year olds are idiots drowning in a pool of hormones. Twas every thus; no society, even the Puritans who may hold the record for trying, has ever put a dent in pre-marital sex. The entire natural function of teenage girls is to be incubators and the entire natural function of teenage boys is to give them something to incubate. No amount of hocus-pocus will ever change that.
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                    • #70
                      Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      16-year olds are idiots drowning in a pool of hormones. Twas every thus; no society, even the Puritans who may hold the record for trying, has ever put a dent in pre-marital sex. The entire natural function of teenage girls is to be incubators and the entire natural function of teenage boys is to give them something to incubate. No amount of hocus-pocus will ever change that.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        Wanna bet? All you need is a one of these.
                        All snark aside if people want to save themselves for marriage, all power to them.

                        However Physics is King and Biology is Queen and their rule is absolute.

                        But as Phil Esterhaus said "Let's be careful out there! "
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                        • #72
                          Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                          Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                          The vast vast vast majority of this issue would go away if people just had responsible sex, or better yet, had no sex until marriage. I do not understand what is so hard about either option.
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                          • #73
                            Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                            Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                            The vast vast vast majority of this issue would go away if people just had responsible sex, or better yet, had no sex until marriage. I do not understand what is so hard about either option.
                            How's this sermon working in Africa there captain insane-o?

                            They'll go out and commit genocide because some pastor says to but they can't resist sex?
                            Last edited by Foxton; 01-14-2015, 01:15 PM.

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                            • #74
                              Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              Why isn't everybody perfect like me?
                              I'm not perfect by any means (I should be working right now). I do know that it is humanly possible to have responsible sex and no sex. I'm not throwing some concept out there that has no chance of ever working. It's not necessarily easy to do either option, but many things in life are not easy to do but should be done, can be done, and do get done.
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                              • #75
                                Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

                                Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                                I'm not perfect by any means (I should be working right now). I do know that it is humanly possible to have responsible sex and no sex. I'm not throwing some concept out there that has no chance of ever working. It's not necessarily easy to do either option, but many things in life are not easy to do but should be done, can be done, and do get done.
                                Having never seen the actual data, I'm willing to bet that the average age of a woman having an abortion is under 25 and they will skew towards the poorer end of the income distributions. Under a certain age (go ahead, guess what that age is), women are more likely to be impulsive and look at short-term gains over long-term rewards. Add in lower income distributions, and you're more likely to have lower education attainment. It becomes much harder than your "I do not understand what is so hard about either option" statement would make it appear.

                                I don't like the idea of abortions outisde of medically necessary situations. I'd like to see these women and men take precautions or find adoptive services, but I'm also living in a world of harsh realities. Things don't happen neatly in order to coincide with some false god's plans.
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